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  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

    rudi@tech.lgbtR petko@social.petko.meP wbftw@hachyderm.ioW pixx@merveilles.townP otyugh@pouet.chapril.orgO 10 Replies Last reply
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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

      rudi@tech.lgbtR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nina_kali_nina it looks like postmarketos has some amount of work done on the m1 (nabbed from asahi stuff) and i believe they have recently put out a 'no-AI-generated-code' statement. you will have to use pmbootstrap to build a device image yourself because M1 support is still in their 'testing' repo but pmbootstrap is honestly some of the best and friendliest linux device image build tooling i've ever used

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      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

        Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

        petko@social.petko.meP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @nina_kali_nina wait... wasn't the default Linux on Arm mac arch btw?

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        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

          Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

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          @nina_kali_nina openSUSE perhaps?

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          • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

            @nina_kali_nina wait... wasn't the default Linux on Arm mac arch btw?

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            @nina_kali_nina also did you decide to move on from macos because of the vista-inspured UI?

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            • rudi@tech.lgbtR rudi@tech.lgbt

              @nina_kali_nina it looks like postmarketos has some amount of work done on the m1 (nabbed from asahi stuff) and i believe they have recently put out a 'no-AI-generated-code' statement. you will have to use pmbootstrap to build a device image yourself because M1 support is still in their 'testing' repo but pmbootstrap is honestly some of the best and friendliest linux device image build tooling i've ever used

              rudi@tech.lgbtR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nina_kali_nina looks like more than i thought is working well actually, i just had to find my way to the wiki page for the generic aarch64 mac support: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Apple_M-series_Macs_(apple-mac-aarch64)

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              • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

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                @nina_kali_nina

                > mixed opinions about gentoo

                fwiw, I'm running gentoo on linux still. It's decent.

                Not sure how good it is on arm mac tho

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                • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                  Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

                  otyugh@pouet.chapril.orgO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @nina_kali_nina no fan of debian ?

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                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                    Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

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                    @nina_kali_nina did you try Asahi Linux?

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                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                      Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

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                      @nina_kali_nina if you have time to spare Gentoo is really a fine distro. You'll have to spend some time and effort installing it, but you'll get all that time back in the following years as it's a breeze to keep up-to-date and its flexibility allows you to change it at your will while without having to reinstall

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                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

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                        @nina_kali_nina How is fedora pro-AI?

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                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                          Linux on arm Mac is 'fun'. The default Fedora is working okay now, but it's pro-AI. What do I do then? 🤔 Chimera and Elementary failed to boot and one of them might have even corrupted my existing Linux install somehow. I know Gentoo should be supported, but I've heard mixed opinions about it. OpenBSD should work, but apparently it won't be able to play videos smoothly due to the lack of hardware video acceleration, which is kind of sad...

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                          @nina_kali_nina NetBSD apparently bans LLM output, and version 11 is nigh.

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                          • bthylafh@nerdculture.deB bthylafh@nerdculture.de

                            @nina_kali_nina NetBSD apparently bans LLM output, and version 11 is nigh.

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                            @bthylafh It looks like Apple Silicon is only supported minimally - e.g. no wifi, maybe not even keyboard or trackpad :<

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                            • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

                              @nina_kali_nina wait... wasn't the default Linux on Arm mac arch btw?

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                              @petko it was, long time ago. It's been Fedora for a couple of years now, I think

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                              • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

                                @nina_kali_nina also did you decide to move on from macos because of the vista-inspured UI?

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                                @petko Tahoe is painful to look at, it's full of "Apple Intelligence" stuff (that for now can be disabled, but newer versions might not have the knob for it), newer OS will drop the support for Rosetta 2 that I quite like, and eventually they'll drop the support for the device itself. So I thought I should prepare to be moving off the MacOS, as I don't plan to get a new Apple computer in the future.

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                                • rudi@tech.lgbtR rudi@tech.lgbt

                                  @nina_kali_nina looks like more than i thought is working well actually, i just had to find my way to the wiki page for the generic aarch64 mac support: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Apple_M-series_Macs_(apple-mac-aarch64)

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                                  @rudi it sounds a bit complicated... I don't want to break an existing OS by mistyping a command or something. :<

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                                  • otyugh@pouet.chapril.orgO otyugh@pouet.chapril.org

                                    @nina_kali_nina no fan of debian ?

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                                    @otyugh well, I'll have to stay on pre-AI debian :3 It's kind of iffy to have python3-llm-anthropic and such in the main repo

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                                    • ssekret@infosec.exchangeS ssekret@infosec.exchange

                                      @nina_kali_nina did you try Asahi Linux?

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                                      @ssekret Asahi Linux _is_ Fedora Remix

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                                      • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to

                                        @nina_kali_nina if you have time to spare Gentoo is really a fine distro. You'll have to spend some time and effort installing it, but you'll get all that time back in the following years as it's a breeze to keep up-to-date and its flexibility allows you to change it at your will while without having to reinstall

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                                        @gabrielesvelto I wonder what the community is like 🤔

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                                        • T tarxz@mstdn.social

                                          @nina_kali_nina How is fedora pro-AI?

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                                          @tarxz they explicitly allow AI contributions (as long as they're marked as such): https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/542

                                          Though it is an increasingly common stance, unfortunately.

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