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  3. As there seems to have been recent confusion about this, just a quick "official" toot to then pin: we haven't and won't support "generative AI" related stuff in LibreWolf.

As there seems to have been recent confusion about this, just a quick "official" toot to then pin: we haven't and won't support "generative AI" related stuff in LibreWolf.

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  • microplastics101@mstdn.socialM microplastics101@mstdn.social

    @tinker @librewolf What about Tor, brave and vivaldi? Are they better/different?

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    @Microplastics101 @tinker @librewolf
    The Tor Browser is a Firefox ESR, configured for maximum privacy and to use the Tor network.
    The others are based on Chrom(e/ium) or Chrome's Blink engine, and only marginally better that Chrome itself.

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    • mercutio@troet.cafeM mercutio@troet.cafe

      @Microplastics101 @tinker @librewolf
      The Tor Browser is a Firefox ESR, configured for maximum privacy and to use the Tor network.
      The others are based on Chrom(e/ium) or Chrome's Blink engine, and only marginally better that Chrome itself.

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      @Mercutio @tinker @librewolf Is it that hard to build a browser? Cant be too hard, Microsoft even managed it. Must be someone has built an open source browser not based on either of them.

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      • microplastics101@mstdn.socialM microplastics101@mstdn.social

        @Mercutio @tinker @librewolf Is it that hard to build a browser? Cant be too hard, Microsoft even managed it. Must be someone has built an open source browser not based on either of them.

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        @Microplastics101 @Mercutio @librewolf - Microsoft Edge is a fork of Google Chrome/Chromium

        Yes, it is that hard.

        The modern web runs full blown applications within a sandboxed browser. It's massively complex. Front End (what the user sees) and backend (what does all the heavy computing on the server side).

        There *are* efforts to build new browser engines separate from Firefox/Chrome but they are underfunded and understaffed. Its firefox (paid for massively by Google donations) and Google proper. That's it.

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        • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

          @Microplastics101 @Mercutio @librewolf - Microsoft Edge is a fork of Google Chrome/Chromium

          Yes, it is that hard.

          The modern web runs full blown applications within a sandboxed browser. It's massively complex. Front End (what the user sees) and backend (what does all the heavy computing on the server side).

          There *are* efforts to build new browser engines separate from Firefox/Chrome but they are underfunded and understaffed. Its firefox (paid for massively by Google donations) and Google proper. That's it.

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          @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Seems like theres an opening for a browser. Id pay for it if it is truly secure. Sandbox the cookies.

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          • microplastics101@mstdn.socialM microplastics101@mstdn.social

            @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Seems like theres an opening for a browser. Id pay for it if it is truly secure. Sandbox the cookies.

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            #9

            @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Servo has already been mentioned by someone else - Ladybird is another option. They aren't stable/fully featured yet, but with more funding they may get there quicker.

            Edit: Disregard my suggestion - see the comments.

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            • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

              @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Servo has already been mentioned by someone else - Ladybird is another option. They aren't stable/fully featured yet, but with more funding they may get there quicker.

              Edit: Disregard my suggestion - see the comments.

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              @marcusxms @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Neither work yet, but Servo is worth supporting. Ladybird is openly MAGA, so consider accordingly

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                @marcusxms @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Neither work yet, but Servo is worth supporting. Ladybird is openly MAGA, so consider accordingly

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                @davidgerard @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf WTF I did not know that?! Thanks for saying so! I won't suggest them anymore, then. Where are they saying this?

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                • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

                  @davidgerard @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf WTF I did not know that?! Thanks for saying so! I won't suggest them anymore, then. Where are they saying this?

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                  @davidgerard @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Okay, I read some of his tweets and already have enough reason not to promote it - thanks for the heads up!

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                  • marcusxms@helvede.netM marcusxms@helvede.net

                    @davidgerard @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Okay, I read some of his tweets and already have enough reason not to promote it - thanks for the heads up!

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                    #13

                    @marcusxms @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf

                    and I'd just compiled some receipts for you on Kling/Ladybird going MAGA 😄 this may be handy for others

                    some notes in this post on fashtech https://awful.systems/post/5833209

                    endorses white replacement theory https://archive.is/ZtQpj

                    RIP Charlie Kirk https://nitter.net/awesomekling/status/1966456391146606806

                    endorsing DHH's straight up fascism https://nitter.net/awesomekling/status/1969350008538370216

                    this stuff is just what kling does now

                    fashtech funding knocked on the door, Kling put on his red baseball cap and took ladybird out on the road

                    anyway, donate to servo

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      @marcusxms @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf

                      and I'd just compiled some receipts for you on Kling/Ladybird going MAGA 😄 this may be handy for others

                      some notes in this post on fashtech https://awful.systems/post/5833209

                      endorses white replacement theory https://archive.is/ZtQpj

                      RIP Charlie Kirk https://nitter.net/awesomekling/status/1966456391146606806

                      endorsing DHH's straight up fascism https://nitter.net/awesomekling/status/1969350008538370216

                      this stuff is just what kling does now

                      fashtech funding knocked on the door, Kling put on his red baseball cap and took ladybird out on the road

                      anyway, donate to servo

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                      @davidgerard @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Thank you. There's a lot to dive into there!

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