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  • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

    OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required 😁

    If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).

    Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?

    It *might* be a very short series 😆

    #colourfulLanguage #theFFSproject

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    #65

    @eclectech In German, much of this is regional; "high German" does not have much colour. What I can think of is from southern dialects:

    "Kreuz, Birnbaum und Hollerstauden!" - "Cross, pear tree, and elder bushes!". I'm given to understand that the etymology is "start a religiously loaded curse, but then change it to something you won't have to bring up at confession". Mostly it's satisfying to yell.

    "Himmel, Arsch und Wolkenbruch" (or "... und Zwirn" or "... und Schornsteinfeger") - "heaven, arse, and sudden torrential rain" / "... and sewing thread" / "... and chimney sweep". Again, just very yellable, etymology otherwise unknown and probably unnecessary.

    "Heilandzack!" shortened from "Heilands Sakrament" – "Saviour's sacrament".

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    • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

      OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required 😁

      If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).

      Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?

      It *might* be a very short series 😆

      #colourfulLanguage #theFFSproject

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      #66

      @eclectech In Mexico we say "Oh que la chingada" for "Oh ffs"

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      • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

        OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required 😁

        If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).

        Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?

        It *might* be a very short series 😆

        #colourfulLanguage #theFFSproject

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        #67
        @eclectech in finnish the equivalent would be "voi vittu soikoon" (lit. may the fuck/pussy ring out)
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        • gabe@mendeddrum.orgG gabe@mendeddrum.org

          @eclectech In German, much of this is regional; "high German" does not have much colour. What I can think of is from southern dialects:

          "Kreuz, Birnbaum und Hollerstauden!" - "Cross, pear tree, and elder bushes!". I'm given to understand that the etymology is "start a religiously loaded curse, but then change it to something you won't have to bring up at confession". Mostly it's satisfying to yell.

          "Himmel, Arsch und Wolkenbruch" (or "... und Zwirn" or "... und Schornsteinfeger") - "heaven, arse, and sudden torrential rain" / "... and sewing thread" / "... and chimney sweep". Again, just very yellable, etymology otherwise unknown and probably unnecessary.

          "Heilandzack!" shortened from "Heilands Sakrament" – "Saviour's sacrament".

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          #68

          @gabe @eclectech +1 for "Himmel, Arsch und Zwirn"

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          • mintey@void.lgbtM mintey@void.lgbt
            @eclectech in finnish the equivalent would be "voi vittu soikoon" (lit. may the fuck/pussy ring out)
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            #69

            @mintey @eclectech Or simply "Voi vittu!", (for cunt's (sake)), emphasis on all three syllables.

            Vittu could be described as an even more verstile equivalent for the English language's fuck.

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            • adriano@lile.clA adriano@lile.cl

              @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech cazzo and minchia both mean “cock” and are interchangeable, yes. But “eccheccazzo” is its own thing.

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              #70

              @adriano @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I was taught never to say "katso merta" ("look at the sea") in the company or even an earshot of an Italian. 😆

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              • ovro@mastodon.artO ovro@mastodon.art

                @adriano @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I was taught never to say "katso merta" ("look at the sea") in the company or even an earshot of an Italian. 😆

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                #71

                @ovro @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech

                I mean. It's not like we have these swears to not use them, it just takes knowing the appropriate context. Like a football match. Or a TV show. Or a family meal. Or a work situation.

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                • adriano@lile.clA adriano@lile.cl

                  @ovro @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech

                  I mean. It's not like we have these swears to not use them, it just takes knowing the appropriate context. Like a football match. Or a TV show. Or a family meal. Or a work situation.

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                  #72

                  @adriano @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I was about twelve at that point and was definitely not told what my innocent sea looking words would sound like to somebody speaking Italian 😆

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                  • oheso@ieji.deO oheso@ieji.de

                    @eclectech In Japanese, まったく (mattaku) or まったくもう (mattakumou), which are usually translated "Honestly ... !" or "Good grief!"

                    From the root really; truly; entirely; completely; wholly; perfectly (according to jisho.org). Becomes FFS depending on the context or intonation.

                    [Not a native, but I've lived here for decades and have been on both the giving and receiving end of this word.]

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                    #73

                    @oheso @eclectech My parents are Japanese and I grew up in a Japanese-speaking household immersed in Japanese media, and まったくもうwas the closest equivalent I could think of. I'm both relieved to get corroboration and a little disappointed that I didn't get to learn some secret, far more profane Japanese phrase that my parents wouldn't use in front of me.

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                    • twotone@wandering.shopT twotone@wandering.shop

                      @oheso @eclectech My parents are Japanese and I grew up in a Japanese-speaking household immersed in Japanese media, and まったくもうwas the closest equivalent I could think of. I'm both relieved to get corroboration and a little disappointed that I didn't get to learn some secret, far more profane Japanese phrase that my parents wouldn't use in front of me.

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                      #74

                      @twotone @eclectech Thank you for corroborating me as well.

                      For the secret, ultra-profane stuff, try teaching your Japanese wife to drive. (Hint: you already know it. There just aren’t a lot of bad words.)

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                      • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

                        OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required 😁

                        If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).

                        Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?

                        It *might* be a very short series 😆

                        #colourfulLanguage #theFFSproject

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                        #75

                        @eclectech
                        Thai, provided by my partner who is Thai:

                        ห่าอะไรวะ

                        Literal translation would be something like "what kind of cholera is this?"

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                        • suneauken@mastodon.worldS suneauken@mastodon.world

                          @CiaraNi @silhelm @eclectech I’d go with “For helvede da også” as getting closest.

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                          #76

                          @SuneAuken @silhelm @eclectech That too

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                          • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

                            OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required 😁

                            If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).

                            Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?

                            It *might* be a very short series 😆

                            #colourfulLanguage #theFFSproject

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                            #77

                            @eclectech so you've already read some local Spanish translations. Most of Spanish dialects will have their own version of this.

                            But since Spanish is spoken by many, for media there is what is known as "neutral Spanish". Think of it like the transatlantic accent developed for English.

                            Anyway, probably the closest neutral Spanish version of this expression might be "con un [maldito] demonio", maldito for extra spiciness.

                            Meaning "by the [goddamn] devil". Not very rude, but thats TV for you.

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                            • eclectech@things.ukE eclectech@things.uk

                              OK, lets give this a shot. Basically with my linguistics skills I will be able to do ONE more. That would be quite a short series. To make it longer a fedi collaboration will be required 😁

                              If you fancy helping please let me know how to write "for fuck's sake" in your language (native, or one you're pretty fluent in - no literal translations from machines please).

                              Of course the big question is whether it's used elsewhere?

                              It *might* be a very short series 😆

                              #colourfulLanguage #theFFSproject

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                              #78

                              @eclectech

                              German (Bavarian to be exact)
                              Non-literal translation: Himmel, Arsch und Zwirn

                              Translated into English: heaven, ass (as in butt, not the 🫏animal) and thread

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                              • ccferrie@mastodon.ieC ccferrie@mastodon.ie

                                @CiaraNi @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech I'd also include "A dhiabhail!" (The devil!)

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                                #79

                                @ccferrie @MiaMarkTwo @eclectech

                                'A dhiabhail' is great - I love the actual sound of that word. So soft for a hard curse. Am only now thinking of the similarity in Danish and Irish here. In Danish, invoking the devil is also a way of saying 'for fuck's sake'. 'For Satan' - the devil - a dhiabhail. 'For Satan' is a stronger curse in everyday Danish speech than just using 'fuck' in English (as people do too).

                                #TheFFSProject

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                                • glitchypixel@mastodon.gamedev.placeG glitchypixel@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @eclectech so you've already read some local Spanish translations. Most of Spanish dialects will have their own version of this.

                                  But since Spanish is spoken by many, for media there is what is known as "neutral Spanish". Think of it like the transatlantic accent developed for English.

                                  Anyway, probably the closest neutral Spanish version of this expression might be "con un [maldito] demonio", maldito for extra spiciness.

                                  Meaning "by the [goddamn] devil". Not very rude, but thats TV for you.

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                                  #80

                                  @eclectech Now if you ask for a Colombian variety, I eant to say this particular one:

                                  "Pero que carajos"

                                  Carajo can feel very cathartic and if said with feeling. It can also be playful, depends on context and intonation.

                                  Carajo is a word that you use to swear, but has no clear meaning. The oldest meaning is stick, euphemism for dick. But no one uses it in that way.

                                  Another meaning is the high part of the mast on a boat (the crow's nest). You would be sent there as punishment (vete al carajo)

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                                  • suearcher@toot.walesS suearcher@toot.wales

                                    @eclectech

                                    As a Welsh learner, I grapple with mutations (where the spelling of a word varies depending on grammatical factors).

                                    Of all the letters in the Welsh alphabet, the only ones not involved in mutation at any point are FF and S, which always amuses me, as FFS is what I often think while trying to learn mutations.

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                                    #81

                                    @suearcher @eclectech and even then Cymraeg has a little trick in that some words that look as if they start with s, really start with another letter - (y)stafell, (e)sgidiau. And don't mention (o)fferiad (from Y Cyfeiriadur gan Tony Ellis). Pob lwc.

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                                    • gabe@mendeddrum.orgG gabe@mendeddrum.org

                                      @eclectech In German, much of this is regional; "high German" does not have much colour. What I can think of is from southern dialects:

                                      "Kreuz, Birnbaum und Hollerstauden!" - "Cross, pear tree, and elder bushes!". I'm given to understand that the etymology is "start a religiously loaded curse, but then change it to something you won't have to bring up at confession". Mostly it's satisfying to yell.

                                      "Himmel, Arsch und Wolkenbruch" (or "... und Zwirn" or "... und Schornsteinfeger") - "heaven, arse, and sudden torrential rain" / "... and sewing thread" / "... and chimney sweep". Again, just very yellable, etymology otherwise unknown and probably unnecessary.

                                      "Heilandzack!" shortened from "Heilands Sakrament" – "Saviour's sacrament".

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                                      #82

                                      @gabe @eclectech „Verfluchte Scheiße!“

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                                      • angleseystick@toot.walesA angleseystick@toot.wales

                                        @suearcher @eclectech and even then Cymraeg has a little trick in that some words that look as if they start with s, really start with another letter - (y)stafell, (e)sgidiau. And don't mention (o)fferiad (from Y Cyfeiriadur gan Tony Ellis). Pob lwc.

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                                        #83

                                        @AngleseyStick @eclectech

                                        o, FFS! 😉 😂

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                                        • jlink@det.socialJ jlink@det.social

                                          @gabe @eclectech „Verfluchte Scheiße!“

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                                          #84

                                          @jlink @eclectech well yes, of course there are expletives, but what's in widespread use is of limited creativity. Expressing the balance of rage and ennui inherent in a well-delivered "oh, for fucks' sake" is not the Hochdeutsch way. Pick one, express it precisely. 🙂

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