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  3. I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

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  • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

    @michael @fesshole truck doors (3) outnumbered by wheels (6, 10, 18). Schools & Commercial buildings are peppered with doors.

    Shopping carts, train cars, wheeled appliances, wheeled furniture, and many tools & toys have far more wheels than doors, and are in homes by vast numbers. Once I start considering all of those wheels, I can count my home’s doors in moments but find myself unable to enumerate all the wheels tucked away in odd use cases in that house.

    How narrowly do we define wheels? Flywheels? Toothed wheels (gears)? Pulleys or wheels holding belts?

    Cars and other motors have flywheels, gear works are full of wheels, wheels persist in clocks and watches. A big retail Hot Wheels display at Christmas countermands the doors of a small city. Pumps, turbines, water meters and anemometers rely on wheels.

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    #40

    @cascheranno @michael @fesshole

    Well, OK, Wheelie McWheelface.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

      but my chats with AI are my entire identity, and my entire thought process. who am i if you deny me that? (/s)

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      #41

      @benroyce @HisVirusness Follow-up question: Do his current training routines involve his anus?

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      • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

        @fesshole does ATPase count as wheel?

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        #42

        @saxnot @fesshole does a voltage gated ion channel count as a door?

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        • goblinquester@dice.campG goblinquester@dice.camp

          @fesshole Then I take it as a sign of health that I didn't think of asking LLM about it until I arrived at your mention of it

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          #43

          @GoblinQuester @fesshole +1

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          • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @HisVirusness Follow-up question: Do his current training routines involve his anus?

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            #44

            @edgeofeurope @HisVirusness

            The world lives in the shadow of Mark Zuckerberg's anus

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            • normandunbar@mastodon.scotN normandunbar@mastodon.scot

              @Anke @michael @fesshole Plus the two wheels inside the mouse that determine X and Y movement. (LED mouses need not apply!)

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              #45

              @Anke @michael @fesshole Aeroplane wheels. Some of those big ones have hundreds! (Antonov, Galaxy) Plus those low loader trucks and trailers with around a million wheels!

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              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                #46

                @fesshole Wheels. Many things have doors but no obvious wheels (houses, f'rex) but many houses also contain wheels — in the form of toys, collectables, model cars/planes/trains that have functioning wheels but non-functioning doors. Also, depending on if an entrance needs a solid covering to be a door, then that also discounts parts of the world where fabric or beads are used as doors, along with any open doorways.

                Only a moron would ask chatGPT when it's far more interesting to think.

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                • anke@social.scribblers.clubA anke@social.scribblers.club

                  @michael @fesshole
                  I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
                  But also 8 cabinet doors.
                  I don't think it's that trivial.

                  ...also, do mouse wheels count?

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                  #47

                  @Anke @michael @fesshole

                  Most office chairs have double wheels. One each side with the support in the middle.

                  So 2*5 = 10 wheels.

                  Then there are all sorts of wheel like things in industrial processes.

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                  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                    I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                    #48

                    Everyone is forgetting to count the little doors on advent calendars.

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                    • normandunbar@mastodon.scotN normandunbar@mastodon.scot

                      @Anke @michael @fesshole Plus the two wheels inside the mouse that determine X and Y movement. (LED mouses need not apply!)

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                      #49

                      @NormanDunbar @Anke @michael @fesshole I assumed they were talking about exercise wheels 🤣
                      Edit: like this

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                      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                        I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                        #50

                        @fesshole obviously there are more windows than doors.

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                        • glueckstein@digitalcourage.socialG glueckstein@digitalcourage.social

                          @GoblinQuester @fesshole +1

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                          #51

                          @glueckstein @GoblinQuester @fesshole +1

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                          • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                            I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                            #52

                            @fesshole

                            My first thought was 'are gears wheels?'

                            Are gates also doors, or does a door have to be in a wall and not a fence? Then what about all the doors at the lumber yard not yet installed?

                            The eyes are the doors to the soul. A lot of animals have eyes. Some of them are even compound

                            Fruit flies have 7-800 little eyes per big eye. That's 1400-1600 eyes per fly and no eye lids. Why doesn't Dr. Who carry an overripe banana around to keep the weeping angels away? Time flies like a banana

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                            • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                              @michael @fesshole

                              Toys heavily skew the balance though. Toy cars tend to have 4 wheels and no doors and dollhouses tend to have at most one door but toy cars heavily outnumber dollhouses

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                              #53

                              @gbargoud @michael @fesshole Lego is the largest manufacturer of tyres, so on that basis I'm going wheels

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                              • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                                Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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                                #54

                                @michael @fesshole some windows have 2x pulley wheels....... Wheelbarrows, lawnmowers, my Legos have wheels and doors, if we count gears I think wheels win, but who knows and I wonder if different LLM would give different answers.

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                                • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

                                  @fesshole does ATPase count as wheel?

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                                  @saxnot @fesshole It doesn't matter. "Are they asking follow-up questions or ChatGPT" is what's really being asked

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                                  • ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu

                                    @lunarloony @michael @fesshole

                                    So... this depends on what we define as wheel, as many things inside a normal household contain wheels for mechanical purposes. Doors, otoh, are not used for half as many things. So if we go by that logic, I would say that there are many more wheels on earth than doors.

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                                    #56

                                    @ainmosni @michael @fesshole I suppose this is the point of the thought experiment!

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                                    • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

                                      @ainmosni @michael @fesshole I suppose this is the point of the thought experiment!

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                                      #57

                                      @lunarloony

                                      I thought the point was to weed out the people who offload their thinking to an unethical misinformation machine. 😛

                                      @michael @fesshole

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                                      • mjc0961@mastodon.socialM mjc0961@mastodon.social

                                        @Cowabbie Most cars also have 4 wheels, so they cancel each other out

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                                        #58

                                        @mjc0961 @Cowabbie

                                        "4 wheels…"

                                        Are you ignoring the steering wheel, or do you just live somewhere where every car is a Reliant Robin? (With no spare wheel in the boot, either, obvs.) 🤪

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                                        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                          I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                                          #59

                                          @fesshole I'm guessing wheels cos most cars, even small ones with just 2 seats have 4. Obviously there's ones that have 2 and 3 wheels like that blue car on live action Mr. Bean show. There's prolly 6, 8, 10 wheelers and prolly a few more than 10

                                          Number of doors depend on how big and/or tall the building is and how large the rooms inside are. I'm confident there are more cars than buildings, but idk.

                                          I mean I'm dumb by myself but I'd never ask gptslop for that, what the actual fuck.

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