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  • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

    It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

    #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

    matttutt@mastodon.socialM ashwin@defcon.socialA srrochardbunson@universeodon.comS joblakely@mastodon.socialJ 0x00string@infosec.exchange0 12 Replies Last reply
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    • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

      business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

      It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

      #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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      @floridamarx same as school really. The ideology that you must be smart - learn this - hit this grade - else you fail (literally; you are a failure). Must get good grades, for a good job, nice house, 2 cars, holidays abroad... the American dream and all that.

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      • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

        business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

        It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

        #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

        ashwin@defcon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @floridamarx

        Very aptly stated!

        'The Art of Business Leadership"

        https://rant.li/ashwin/

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        • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

          business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

          It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

          #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

          srrochardbunson@universeodon.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @floridamarx 🎯 It also preloads them with rationalizations & justifications for what "doesn't count as a cost" & therefore doesn't have to be subtracted from the resulting profit.

          Of course, these "externalized costs" Re often actually socialized losses & costs passed onto the general population, that is excluded from amy of the profits. Especially if they never are taxed or insufficiently so.

          What do you think @FantasticalEconomics ?

          #Capitalism #ideology #business #economics ##AntiCapitalist

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          • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

            business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

            It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

            #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

            joblakely@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @floridamarx marketing programs are equally trash.

            They are about coercion, and feeding into insecurity, making insecurity, exploiting insecurity, and how to lie and sell nothing of real value. It’s rarely about creating better customer experience.

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            • matttutt@mastodon.socialM matttutt@mastodon.social

              @floridamarx same as school really. The ideology that you must be smart - learn this - hit this grade - else you fail (literally; you are a failure). Must get good grades, for a good job, nice house, 2 cars, holidays abroad... the American dream and all that.

              freediverx@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @matttutt @floridamarx
              That dream died a long time ago. The question now is if Americans will finally wake up and take back control of their country from the oligarchs and the uniparty system that protects their interests… before it’s too late.

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              • srrochardbunson@universeodon.comS srrochardbunson@universeodon.com

                @floridamarx 🎯 It also preloads them with rationalizations & justifications for what "doesn't count as a cost" & therefore doesn't have to be subtracted from the resulting profit.

                Of course, these "externalized costs" Re often actually socialized losses & costs passed onto the general population, that is excluded from amy of the profits. Especially if they never are taxed or insufficiently so.

                What do you think @FantasticalEconomics ?

                #Capitalism #ideology #business #economics ##AntiCapitalist

                fantasticaleconomics@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx

                No disagreements with any of that! (Issues, very much so.)

                I'm not sure if most business programs actually try to label their harmful gibberish as science (though they may call it 'managerial science' or some other nonsense at times), but they certainly pretend to teach something useful, which they don't.

                It's just narrowly applied neoliberal doctrine without even the attempt at rigour that economics programs gilt over their facades.

                Cut costs, outsource, grow, ignore externalities and morals and fairness... then pretend you've done good for the world because greed is good for society.

                Then take your MBA and beat workers - workers who have actual insights into the industry you have zero experience in - into submission with your lofty sounding words.

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                • fantasticaleconomics@mas.toF fantasticaleconomics@mas.to

                  @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx

                  No disagreements with any of that! (Issues, very much so.)

                  I'm not sure if most business programs actually try to label their harmful gibberish as science (though they may call it 'managerial science' or some other nonsense at times), but they certainly pretend to teach something useful, which they don't.

                  It's just narrowly applied neoliberal doctrine without even the attempt at rigour that economics programs gilt over their facades.

                  Cut costs, outsource, grow, ignore externalities and morals and fairness... then pretend you've done good for the world because greed is good for society.

                  Then take your MBA and beat workers - workers who have actual insights into the industry you have zero experience in - into submission with your lofty sounding words.

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                  #8

                  @FantasticalEconomics @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx They also pretend to teach something objective & factual, which they also very much don't - they like to pretend that their "laws" are like the laws of nature; money flows just like fluids, if this, then that etc.

                  This is not the problem, though - the problem is that we let them. These self-righteous nutbars have infected every level of society, posing as experts & coopting policy, with alarmingly scarce pushback...

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                  • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                    business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                    It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                    #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                    #9

                    @floridamarx have a business degree, can confirm

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                    • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                      business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                      It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                      #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                      #10

                      @floridamarx

                      Economics is a pseudoscience. Business school is for wannabe economists who don’t want to join the priesthood.

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                      • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                        @FantasticalEconomics @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx They also pretend to teach something objective & factual, which they also very much don't - they like to pretend that their "laws" are like the laws of nature; money flows just like fluids, if this, then that etc.

                        This is not the problem, though - the problem is that we let them. These self-righteous nutbars have infected every level of society, posing as experts & coopting policy, with alarmingly scarce pushback...

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                        #11

                        @jwcph

                        Fully agree. Despite what they preach, the choice to: maximize profits, pursue economic efficiency, and think that growth is good are very value-based, normative ideas. So far from the objectivity they claim to value. Even how these terms are defined and quantified require normative choices.

                        It is definitely a problem we don't push back on it. I also want to acknowledge how much has been invested by the uber wealthy to push this doctrine. Many econ and business schools are funded by right-wing ghouls like the Kochs.

                        This is not to say we shouldn't fight against it, just recognizing the tilted playing field we play on, as with all things that attempt to fight the system and those with power entrenched in it.

                        @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx

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                        • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                          @FantasticalEconomics @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx They also pretend to teach something objective & factual, which they also very much don't - they like to pretend that their "laws" are like the laws of nature; money flows just like fluids, if this, then that etc.

                          This is not the problem, though - the problem is that we let them. These self-righteous nutbars have infected every level of society, posing as experts & coopting policy, with alarmingly scarce pushback...

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                          @jwcph @FantasticalEconomics @SrRochardBunson @floridamarx Unfortunately at least in the UK the media have almost all bought into this mindset. Their economics editors and business editors opine on every political/economic/business story from a starting point that corporate growth is desirable, government spending is wasteful and externalities that threaten our existence can be ignored. They will kill us all.

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                          • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                            business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                            It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                            #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                            @floridamarx meanwhile the accounting students are laughing their ass off at that ridiculously simplistic definition.

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                            • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                              business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                              It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                              #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                              #14

                              @floridamarx profit. what is it good for?

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                              • joblakely@mastodon.socialJ joblakely@mastodon.social

                                @floridamarx marketing programs are equally trash.

                                They are about coercion, and feeding into insecurity, making insecurity, exploiting insecurity, and how to lie and sell nothing of real value. It’s rarely about creating better customer experience.

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                                #15

                                @floridamarx@mastodon.social @JoBlakely@mastodon.social its about creating a better customer experience when that's what gives you a better market share and/or perceived value
                                literally just manipulation
                                cunts

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                                • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                                  business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                                  It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                                  #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                                  #16

                                  @floridamarx

                                  They even have courses on Business Ethics!
                                  🤣🤣🤣

                                  Taught by 👿

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                                  • ericlawton@kolektiva.socialE ericlawton@kolektiva.social

                                    @floridamarx

                                    They even have courses on Business Ethics!
                                    🤣🤣🤣

                                    Taught by 👿

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                                    @EricLawton @floridamarx unless your business is a worker-owned cooperative, it's inherently unethical!

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                                    • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                                      business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                                      It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                                      #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                                      #18

                                      @floridamarx Profit = the waste heat in an economic activity.

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                                      • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                                        business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                                        It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                                        #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                                        #19

                                        @floridamarx

                                        economics teaches that it's an indicator of market inefficiency, demonstrating that the system we're supposed to have democratically chosen and managed for the benefit of all, is failing us.

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                                        • floridamarx@mastodon.socialF floridamarx@mastodon.social

                                          business school isn't actually teaching you a science. It's teaching you an ideology.

                                          It exists to produce the managerial class - enforcers of capital who normalize the idea that "profit" is the natural goal of human existence, rather than a parasitic extraction.

                                          #capitalism #workingclass #labor #profit

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                                          #20

                                          @floridamarx@mastodon.social
                                          True, but you HAVE to start somewhere.
                                          Primary school teacher here - i guess i could teach my 3rd- graders like that and some would laugh at me.

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