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  3. If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    If you live outside of the United States,
    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

    What would happen to your work?

    What would happen to your hospitals?

    What would happen to your emergency services?

    What would happen to your banks?

    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

    What would happen?
    Is your country prepared?

    #DataSovereignty

    llanciawn@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    llanciawn@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #95

    @Em0nM4stodon I raised this at work before I retired. They didn't take it seriously.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      If you live outside of the United States,
      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

      What would happen to your work?

      What would happen to your hospitals?

      What would happen to your emergency services?

      What would happen to your banks?

      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

      What would happen?
      Is your country prepared?

      #DataSovereignty

      rosepuckey@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
      rosepuckey@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
      rosepuckey@beige.party
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #96

      @Em0nM4stodon Thanks @Em0nM4stodon I'm reading this at 23:20 and now mixing all of this into the usual how to sleep soundly type thoughts.

      Stuff it, I know a nice dry cave that I could happily live in. On fact, I may go and have a look tomorrow anyway.

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      • passenger@kolektiva.socialP passenger@kolektiva.social

        @mwt @blotosmetek @barbra @Em0nM4stodon

        A minicomputer as in a small computer or a minicomputer as in, like, a PDP-11? If you got Windows 2000 to run on a mini then that's extremely cool.

        angelascholder@mastodon.energyA This user is from outside of this forum
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        angelascholder@mastodon.energy
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #97

        @passenger @mwt @blotosmetek @barbra @Em0nM4stodon My Compaq EN6266 (technically a 6400) still runs with W2000.
        An other Compaq/HP still starts with XP Pro, at least did so a year ago.
        And, I resurrected my Aspire One netbook running W8.1 last year. Had died on the SSD, but running again with the last HDD before it.

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          If you live outside of the United States,
          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

          What would happen to your work?

          What would happen to your hospitals?

          What would happen to your emergency services?

          What would happen to your banks?

          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

          What would happen?
          Is your country prepared?

          #DataSovereignty

          rameshgupta@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
          rameshgupta@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
          rameshgupta@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #98

          ⬆️ @Em0nM4stodon

          >> If you live outside of the #UnitedStates, do you know if your country has a plan if the #US government decided to cut access to #Google, #Microsoft, and #Amazon products overnight?

          What better way to nuke the #tech #broligarch cartel in the US swiftly and for good? Go for it #USA.

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            If you live outside of the United States,
            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

            What would happen to your work?

            What would happen to your hospitals?

            What would happen to your emergency services?

            What would happen to your banks?

            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

            What would happen?
            Is your country prepared?

            #DataSovereignty

            onekind@beige.partyO This user is from outside of this forum
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            onekind@beige.party
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #99

            @Em0nM4stodon have you ever heard of ISDS (investor state dispute settlement)?

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              If you live outside of the United States,
              do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

              What would happen to your work?

              What would happen to your hospitals?

              What would happen to your emergency services?

              What would happen to your banks?

              Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

              What would happen?
              Is your country prepared?

              #DataSovereignty

              captainmalu@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              captainmalu@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #100

              @Em0nM4stodon I would feel the impact personally as I'm dependent on Google, but I try to decrease this. For work I would be mostly fine but our customers are dependent on Microsoft and Amazon and some of there services they get from as are connected to azure and co. So there will be an impact. Also I don't know about the dependencies the Datacenter and power companies have. Electricity is very important. So the impact will be at least indirectly.

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                If you live outside of the United States,
                do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                What would happen to your work?

                What would happen to your hospitals?

                What would happen to your emergency services?

                What would happen to your banks?

                Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                What would happen?
                Is your country prepared?

                #DataSovereignty

                orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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                orca@nya.one
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #101
                @Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange I live in China, I can't use Google from the beginning and Microsoft services are sluggish due to Internet censorship. lol.
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                • 98percent@mastodon.nz9 98percent@mastodon.nz

                  @Em0nM4stodon I live in New Zealand. The simple answer is no, we are not at all prepared.
                  Our government has been touting new data centres that have been established here to give us data sovereignty. But guess who runs them? AWS and Microsoft, for two.
                  Having the hardware on our soil is just an illusion of data sovereignty in my opinion (but I am not a tech expert).

                  thisislieven@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  thisislieven@c.im
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #102

                  @98Percent

                  No tech expert either but I can tell you that is indeed an illusion. The US has passed two laws (one under Biden, the other under Trump) which explicitly give the US government access to data hosted by US companies regardless of the physical location of the hosting equipment. They have to request it but that's a mere formality.

                  Not too long ago a Microsoft official confirmed this while speaking in France, and said they will comply.

                  @Em0nM4stodon

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    If you live outside of the United States,
                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                    What would happen to your work?

                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                    What would happen to your banks?

                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                    What would happen?
                    Is your country prepared?

                    #DataSovereignty

                    f3715h@rubber.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                    f3715h@rubber.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                    f3715h@rubber.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #103

                    @Em0nM4stodon it is not.
                    - Like not at all!

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      If you live outside of the United States,
                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                      What would happen to your work?

                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                      What would happen to your banks?

                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                      What would happen?
                      Is your country prepared?

                      #DataSovereignty

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                      spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #104

                      @Em0nM4stodon

                      The same questions apply even inside the US.

                      What if the entire Microsoft cloud failed?

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                      • guigsy@mstdn.socialG guigsy@mstdn.social

                        @BubblegumYeti @Em0nM4stodon Stored in the EU provides almost zero protection. Your cloud is still run by a US company that WILL comply with US orders to exfiltrate your data and/or turn off the access.

                        benedikt_lauenburg@norden.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        benedikt_lauenburg@norden.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #105

                        @guigsy @BubblegumYeti @Em0nM4stodon the "cloud" of my company is inside the building. Files, websites, email. We don't use any external infrastructure except the line. Windows should continue to Work as it is not connected to Azure.

                        For private stuff, I use nextcloud, hosted inside the country. I also use a VPN to connect to my files at home.

                        Only problem remaining is Android for banking and ticketing apps.

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          If you live outside of the United States,
                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                          What would happen to your work?

                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                          What would happen to your banks?

                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                          What would happen?
                          Is your country prepared?

                          #DataSovereignty

                          netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          netzblockierer@tech.lgbt
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #106

                          @Em0nM4stodon OFC not.

                          • @bsi is criminally incompetent.
                            • @Bundesregierung & @AuswaertigesAmt is busy licking #Trump's boots and
                          • @EUCommission under #Zensursula is completely ignorant!

                          I'll tell them #ToldYaSo and some friends will have a killer time charging 4-5 digits an hour to the highest bidders to get them deployed with a nice #Linux distro!

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            If you live outside of the United States,
                            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                            What would happen to your work?

                            What would happen to your hospitals?

                            What would happen to your emergency services?

                            What would happen to your banks?

                            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                            What would happen?
                            Is your country prepared?

                            #DataSovereignty

                            assimilateborg@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            assimilateborg@kind.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #107

                            @Em0nM4stodon oh, I tried to warn my workplace to have a fall back solution. Well, no, nothing is done. Good thing is that it is my last year of work. So I actually don't care.

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              If you live outside of the United States,
                              do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                              What would happen to your work?

                              What would happen to your hospitals?

                              What would happen to your emergency services?

                              What would happen to your banks?

                              Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                              What would happen?
                              Is your country prepared?

                              #DataSovereignty

                              g1n@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              g1n@infosec.exchange
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #108

                              @Em0nM4stodon my guess is only Russia, China, North Korea, Iran and Cuba may have that.
                              That kind of puts in perspective the concept of freedom we generally use.

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                              • stekopf@mstdn.socialS stekopf@mstdn.social

                                @cmsdengl

                                Wouldn't Windows XP computers unaffected? MS stopped support of this software long ago.
                                (but of course it's bad to still use XP)

                                @Em0nM4stodon

                                98percent@mastodon.nz9 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                98percent@mastodon.nz
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #109

                                @stekopf @cmsdengl @Em0nM4stodon any computer except perhaps Chromebooks should still work, but would not receive updates or connect to any external services.
                                The issue that there would be nothing to connect to.

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                                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                  If you live outside of the United States,
                                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                  What would happen to your work?

                                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                                  What would happen to your banks?

                                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                  What would happen?
                                  Is your country prepared?

                                  #DataSovereignty

                                  tokenizer@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  tokenizer@fosstodon.org
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #110

                                  @Em0nM4stodon paranoia.

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                                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                    If you live outside of the United States,
                                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                    What would happen to your work?

                                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                                    What would happen to your banks?

                                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                    What would happen?
                                    Is your country prepared?

                                    #DataSovereignty

                                    lettosprey@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    lettosprey@tech.lgbt
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #111

                                    @Em0nM4stodon tnx to Trump, things have gotten better. He sorta highlighted how bad it could get.

                                    But AI messed it up cause everyone needs Claude 😞

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      If you live outside of the United States,
                                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                      What would happen to your work?

                                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                                      What would happen to your banks?

                                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                      What would happen?
                                      Is your country prepared?

                                      #DataSovereignty

                                      linguistgoneforeign@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      linguistgoneforeign@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #112

                                      @Em0nM4stodon

                                      Not really. Europe has realized their massive digital dependency from the US too late and now the plan is basically: "let's keep licking Trump's balls and hope he doesn't cut us off".

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                                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                        If you live outside of the United States,
                                        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                        What would happen to your work?

                                        What would happen to your hospitals?

                                        What would happen to your emergency services?

                                        What would happen to your banks?

                                        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                        What would happen?
                                        Is your country prepared?

                                        #DataSovereignty

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                                        gtbray@allovertheplace.ca
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #113

                                        @Em0nM4stodon all i can say to that question is that when i was working and it was in the banking industry all of this had been thought of and that was years ago. it's why all our cloud hosting was done outside the us.

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                                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                          If you live outside of the United States,
                                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                          What would happen to your work?

                                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                                          What would happen to your banks?

                                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                          What would happen?
                                          Is your country prepared?

                                          #DataSovereignty

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                                          sirmars@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #114

                                          @FreakyFwoof @Em0nM4stodon lol. If the EU keeps this up, no tech company will wanna sell there either. P.S. Joking don't worry. would never happen.

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