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  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    fesshole@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

    jackeric@beige.partyJ chronovore@infosec.exchangeC astromech@djs.socialA doraii@furry.engineerD motorbed@metalhead.clubM 15 Replies Last reply
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    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

      On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

      jackeric@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @fesshole Cunningham's Law

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      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

        On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

        chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
        chronovore@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @fesshole Same with StackOverflow - that site is toxic. For all the complaints about AI - it gives me better results without the blatant misogyny. Not least - no mansplaining to me why my question is wrong. I will not miss its demise.

        beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.placeB mkoek@mastodon.nlM jesusmargar@mastodon.socialJ 3 Replies Last reply
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        • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

          @fesshole Cunningham's Law

          benhm3@saint-paul.usB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @jackeric @fesshole

          https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law

          jackeric@beige.partyJ clickhere@mastodon.ieC 2 Replies Last reply
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          • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

            @fesshole Same with StackOverflow - that site is toxic. For all the complaints about AI - it gives me better results without the blatant misogyny. Not least - no mansplaining to me why my question is wrong. I will not miss its demise.

            beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
            beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @chronovore @fesshole that's what drives me crazy about SO

            At its start it was really helpful. But then the site gradually became less about Q&A and more about going for points and e-peen measuring. Way too many questions end up "why are you doing that" or having the highest voted answer being flagrantly wrong

            Still it's nominally better than the before times where searching a question turned up forum threads with no answer, elitist flaming, "fixed it" or paywalled Experts Exchange links.

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            • beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.placeB beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @chronovore @fesshole that's what drives me crazy about SO

              At its start it was really helpful. But then the site gradually became less about Q&A and more about going for points and e-peen measuring. Way too many questions end up "why are you doing that" or having the highest voted answer being flagrantly wrong

              Still it's nominally better than the before times where searching a question turned up forum threads with no answer, elitist flaming, "fixed it" or paywalled Experts Exchange links.

              richlv@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @beeoproblem @chronovore @fesshole Any examples of the highest voted answer being indeed wrong?

              celesteh@hachyderm.ioC beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.placeB 2 Replies Last reply
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              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                astromech@djs.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @fesshole Modern problems...

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                • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                  On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                  doraii@furry.engineerD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @fesshole I normally only stay on certain sides of the Linux community, mostly super queer ones, so I forgot how very non-progressive so much of it is.

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                  • benhm3@saint-paul.usB benhm3@saint-paul.us

                    @jackeric @fesshole

                    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law

                    jackeric@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @BenHM3 @fesshole y'know what I had no idea it was Ward Cunningham who this is credited to... for some reason I had it associated with Admiral Cunningham

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                    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                      On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                      motorbed@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @fesshole
                      Hi there! I'm sorry to hear that. One would think that the glory penguin does not allow something like that. Forums in general are always a risky a place to ask questions. "to hell with you if you didn't read the 60 page FAQ and the 20 page 'where to start'". it's even worse if there is a just slightly similar question laying around somewhere on the board that has been answered. and " damn you" if you didnt put enough information like all of your sensitive details and logs in your question from the start.. i'm sad to hear that with all the obstacles that are already there, beeing a woman adds another one.

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                      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                        On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                        motorbed@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @fesshole One problem on those pages is definitely, that those persons who are able to solve all these problems are very smart with that stuff... but not with human interaction.. or patience.. or understanding the emotional side of a logical correction.. and that that incompetence maybe makes them even more toxic..

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                        • benhm3@saint-paul.usB benhm3@saint-paul.us

                          @jackeric @fesshole

                          https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law

                          clickhere@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @BenHM3 @jackeric @fesshole Wait. You're telling me that Cunningham's Law defeats Dunning-Kruger effect? 😧

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                          • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                            On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                            numodular@c.imN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @fesshole Is this a Con job, or... a... Con Fess shun?..

                            watawoyld

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                            • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

                              @beeoproblem @chronovore @fesshole Any examples of the highest voted answer being indeed wrong?

                              celesteh@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @richlv @beeoproblem @chronovore @fesshole

                              On ask Ubuntu, the highest rated answer is often out if date, but it can sometimes be a useful hint on how to search further.

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                              • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

                                @beeoproblem @chronovore @fesshole Any examples of the highest voted answer being indeed wrong?

                                beeoproblem@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @richlv @chronovore @fesshole example I ran into today was an answer to a question "misunderstanding of before in cypress." Person is visiting a page in a (before) call, first test passes others fail with a blank page.

                                Top answer "you are trying one test per command" which is an architectural decision unrelated to the question

                                Actual, correct answer "you have test isolation turned on"

                                I don't keep a list of encounters but it's something I run into often enough to remember as a "thing"

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                                • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                  On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                                  thedaemon@snac.9front.clubT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16
                                  Funny yet sad.
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                                  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                    On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                                    hohokam@mastodon.sdf.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @fesshole fuckin internet hack right there.

                                    10/10 no notes

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                                    • thedaemon@snac.9front.clubT thedaemon@snac.9front.club
                                      Funny yet sad.
                                      justine@snac.smithies.me.ukJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18
                                      Indeed.

                                      CC: @fesshole@mastodon.social
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                                      • clickhere@mastodon.ieC clickhere@mastodon.ie

                                        @BenHM3 @jackeric @fesshole Wait. You're telling me that Cunningham's Law defeats Dunning-Kruger effect? 😧

                                        benhm3@saint-paul.usB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @clickhere @jackeric @fesshole

                                        No, it defeats the bullshit “wisdom of crowds.” D-K is like the gravitational constant.

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                                        • chronovore@infosec.exchangeC chronovore@infosec.exchange

                                          @fesshole Same with StackOverflow - that site is toxic. For all the complaints about AI - it gives me better results without the blatant misogyny. Not least - no mansplaining to me why my question is wrong. I will not miss its demise.

                                          mkoek@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @chronovore @fesshole oh don’t worry, as a man I too always get a bunch of busybodies explaining why my question is wrong wrong wrong (alternative explanation: could be that I just ask really stupid questions 🙂)

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