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  3. This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_.

This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_.

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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

    RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

    This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

    They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

    bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @glyph if it makes you feel better: my *pessimistic* expectations are that even if we get set back *decades* and have to rebuild our software stacks from scratch, we can at least use it as a chance to *actually* take lessons we've learned and do that without the baggage of "but it would be so much work and we don't have to."

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    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

      @glyph I recently had this experience in a very low-stakes way

      https://discuss.systems/@ricci/117236428486496946

      alys@selfy.armyA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @ricci @glyph thanks for sharing! i wasn‘t exactly excited about a slop “conversion” of Zork but between not knowing the game and only reading the post announcing it, i probably was more credulous about the claims made than i should have been.

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      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

        @ricci this is the most intense “I will never forgive them for what they have done to the computer” I have felt yet

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        #7

        @glyph if you want to be super fucking pissed go to the twisty maze of passages and ponder what would possess someone to be impressed by it

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        • alys@selfy.armyA alys@selfy.army

          @ricci @glyph thanks for sharing! i wasn‘t exactly excited about a slop “conversion” of Zork but between not knowing the game and only reading the post announcing it, i probably was more credulous about the claims made than i should have been.

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          #8

          @alys @glyph that guy's account is chock full of stuff like this

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            @alys @glyph that guy's account is chock full of stuff like this

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            #9

            @alys @glyph just imagine finding this funny, like really sit with the idea that someone thinks that this is what a kid would produce in this hypothetical situation, that any of this is anything other than extremely painful, that there are people who think that this is not only an impressive technical achievement (which it admittedly is) but that this is adding humor to the world

            https://bsky.app/profile/emollick.bsky.social/post/3mqctp2zy7s2i

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            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

              @alys @glyph just imagine finding this funny, like really sit with the idea that someone thinks that this is what a kid would produce in this hypothetical situation, that any of this is anything other than extremely painful, that there are people who think that this is not only an impressive technical achievement (which it admittedly is) but that this is adding humor to the world

              https://bsky.app/profile/emollick.bsky.social/post/3mqctp2zy7s2i

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              #10

              @ricci @glyph feels like the kind of slop that boomers were falling for and getting made fun of for, just slightly more subtle and aimed at Millenials instead of boomers.

              like it‘s not something a Millenial child would have made either but that‘s the era it evokes visually.

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              • alys@selfy.armyA alys@selfy.army

                @ricci @glyph feels like the kind of slop that boomers were falling for and getting made fun of for, just slightly more subtle and aimed at Millenials instead of boomers.

                like it‘s not something a Millenial child would have made either but that‘s the era it evokes visually.

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                #11

                @ricci @glyph oh god, this man claims to study ai as a professor

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                • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                  This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                  They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                  #12

                  @glyph https://youtu.be/UFeVMaK0plQ?si=o1I7GPRFhFGbv7zM&t=14

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                    #13

                    @abartlet @glyph I’ve been surprised (though grateful) how few RCEs are coming through, ngl, even purported ones

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                    • bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.dev

                      @glyph if it makes you feel better: my *pessimistic* expectations are that even if we get set back *decades* and have to rebuild our software stacks from scratch, we can at least use it as a chance to *actually* take lessons we've learned and do that without the baggage of "but it would be so much work and we don't have to."

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                      #14

                      @bryce @glyph

                      The engineers doing the grunt work understands this. I'm not convinced most of the CxO levels are even close to capable of grasping such realities.

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                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                        This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                        They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                        #15

                        @glyph all of this while every professional has to worry about being laid off due to the machines "replacing them" or "making others more efficient".

                        The reality is that everyone is drowning in slop while formerly (somewhat) stable infrastructure is historically unstable due to the maintaining companies going all-in on AI.

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                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                          This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                          They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                          #16

                          @glyph Scammers have all the power, it is an economy of theft and grift and for the people who are affected by this are looking and understanding the Luddite movement that little bit more.

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                          • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                            When skeptics say it "doesn't work", that's imprecise, not really correct. Nevertheless, this is what we're talking about. It's impossible to tell at the time, it all *looks* like it's doing something, and if you were show me something tomorrow I'd probably believe it again. It just keeps *turning out* after massive efforts to investigate or verify its work, that all its big "capabilities" are just plagiarism, fraud, or both

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                            #17

                            @glyph I don't think it "doesn't work". It clearly does things that can be useful in specific circumstances, and that can appear useful in a much broader set of circumstances. But it's also eroding our capacity to maintain our own systems (software, broader tech, and social). And one of the ways it does "work" is moving control from users to a handful of unaccountable corporations run by questionable people...

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                            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                              RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                              This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                              They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                              #18

                              @glyph
                              > They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

                              This sentence hits me right in the feels!

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                              • naught101@mastodon.socialN naught101@mastodon.social

                                @glyph I don't think it "doesn't work". It clearly does things that can be useful in specific circumstances, and that can appear useful in a much broader set of circumstances. But it's also eroding our capacity to maintain our own systems (software, broader tech, and social). And one of the ways it does "work" is moving control from users to a handful of unaccountable corporations run by questionable people...

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                                #19

                                @naught101

                                only slightly disagree with the „questionable“ part - we know very well these people are very bad persons…

                                @glyph

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                                • djmitche@fosstodon.orgD djmitche@fosstodon.org

                                  @glyph
                                  > They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

                                  This sentence hits me right in the feels!

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                                  #20

                                  @djmitche @glyph Yep. I now wake up most days wondering if the sum contribution of my work in this honrable profession has amounted to exactly zero.

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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                                    This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                                    They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                                    #21

                                    @glyph Draw pictures of Anthropic/OpenAI as Lucy, obviously

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                                    • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                      RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                                      This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                                      They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                                      #22

                                      @glyph

                                      buy a farm and raise goats and chickens.

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                                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                        RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                                        This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                                        They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                                        #23

                                        @glyph the job of every capitalist system is to take your good will and convert it into gray goo

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                                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                          RE: https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117239484057326836

                                          This stuff is really starting to make me _angry_. Every one of these new "achievements" looks plausible and like Lucy with the football, people I trust keep telling me it actually works and surely this time it's real. And then like clockwork, 3-6 months later, it turns out that the efficacy of this new technique is somewhere between "break even" and "fraud".

                                          They're turning our whole industry, my entire life's work, into a goddamn memecoin pump and dump scam and I just don't know what to do.

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                                          #24

                                          @glyph Maybe helping to resist all those "tools" by hiding them helps?

                                          https://github.com/gittaca/Stevos-GenAI-Blocklist/

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