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  • isotopp@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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    lazyb0y@mastodon.socialL pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP dirkaufsee@norden.socialD beandev@social.tchncs.deB joeinwynnewood@mstdn.socialJ 15 Replies Last reply
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      #2

      @isotopp

      these old farts with decades of experience will just annoy managers by telling them that their great ideas cost about 1000x of what they believe and only bring 1/1000 of the effect they hope for.

      it’s much better to work with younger less experienced people…

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        #3

        @isotopp

        Ageism as a Service. Cool, cool.

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          #4

          @isotopp not 100% sure if this IBM thing is real, but the spirit in general is good.

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            #5

            @isotopp
            Und ich wurde von Kollegen gefragt, warum das neue Governance Framework ein Fairness Pillar hat 😅.

            Um genau sowas in den Standards zu verhindern.

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              #6

              @isotopp

              I'm willing to bet there are and will be thousands of instances of people in important positions using LLMs to make decisions for them and have no idea what criteria was actually used.

              The decision spit out may look great at first blush, but, as in this case, be hugely problematic.

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                #7

                @isotopp
                Coffee -- do stupid things faster!

                AI -- do stupid things instantaneously!

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                  #8

                  @isotopp as much as I want to believe this, I’m having a hard time with the idea that a senior member of staff would tweet something that obviously immediately opens them up to 4,000 lawsuits.

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                    @isotopp @mastodonmigration They don’t even have explicit criteria for the position?!

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                      #10

                      @isotopp Who even writes their age on their CV?

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                      • robinwhittleton@front-end.socialR robinwhittleton@front-end.social

                        @isotopp as much as I want to believe this, I’m having a hard time with the idea that a senior member of staff would tweet something that obviously immediately opens them up to 4,000 lawsuits.

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                        #11

                        @robinwhittleton @isotopp

                        This is a strong point. Perhaps he got an LLM to tweet it for him.

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                        • elricofmelnibone@mastodon.socialE elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social

                          @isotopp Who even writes their age on their CV?

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                          @elricofmelnibone @isotopp It looked for college graduation date. That should be in your cv.

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                            @isotopp he will revieu it for sure 😉

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                              #14

                              @isotopp
                              And this is why HR gets the rep it has 🤯

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                                @isotopp The HR manager automatically declared herself useless and unfit for her role. Now they need to hire a new HR manager too.

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                                • mortentorten@subversive.zoneM mortentorten@subversive.zone

                                  @elricofmelnibone @isotopp It looked for college graduation date. That should be in your cv.

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                                  #16

                                  @mortentorten That's a proxy for age at best. Plenty of people graduate at later ages after they start working.

                                  My CV doesn't mention my education at all, nor does it include all of the work I've done because then it would get too long.

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                                  • robinwhittleton@front-end.socialR robinwhittleton@front-end.social

                                    @isotopp as much as I want to believe this, I’m having a hard time with the idea that a senior member of staff would tweet something that obviously immediately opens them up to 4,000 lawsuits.

                                    david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @robinwhittleton @isotopp

                                    Additionally: The problem he identifies is only that they may be open to lawsuits and not that they're filtering out a load of qualified and experienced candidates?

                                    Also that the only issue was ageism (I'd be shocked if this approach didn't also discount most female candidates, though the 'youthful energy' bit of the prompt will almost certainly filter out anyone who has age-related signals in their CV).

                                    It appears that this is the original tweet (xcancel because I don't want to send traffic to the Nazi Bar, remove the 'cancel' from the URL to avoid the mirror).

                                    The post appears to be trying to drive traffic to his legal AI newsletter. So I suspect it's a made-up story by someone trying to sell legal-adjacent advice.

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                                      #18

                                      @isotopp Even setting aside the ridiculous idea that using "AI" makes it okay, specifying "youthful energy" shows an unambiguous intent to discriminate on the basis of age.

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                                      • elricofmelnibone@mastodon.socialE elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social

                                        @isotopp Who even writes their age on their CV?

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                                        #19

                                        @elricofmelnibone "yes, I have a degree in computer science; no, I won't tell you what year I got it"

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                                          #20

                                          @isotopp
                                          But isn't it wonderful how much time and money AI saves day in day out, with productivity skyrocketing and everything sparkling with star dust...

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