Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart Nope. By now I want to learn to make non-toxic insect repellent so I can learn to grow my own food and how to skin rabbits for stewing and remember how to fish, because I'm almost to the point of never wanting to see a computer again.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart I mean I already know programming but I'm always up for learning an interesting new language
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart Yes. I've been asked by a couple of people recently (who have not been developers and just dipped their toes in vibe code) how to learn "real programming, not with the bots."
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart Sure! It's all about the journey, not the destination.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart Yes! I’ve been helping someone pick up C and C++.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart I've had to temporarily set it aside after being laid off, but I was taking computer science courses at the local community college learning C++. The professor was great and really made sure you knew the language and were thinking through all of it. I loved it and hope to pick it back up when I land a new role.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart I have a handful of projects I want to start on but am stuck at the “which frameworks do I use?” and “how do I even set them up?” phase.
Even for simple work-related hacks. “Just point Claude at it.” Happy to (just to get past the boilerplate stage), but even that doesn’t answer all the questions I have.
Nor does it fill me with confidence that I won’t be stuck woth stupid architectural decisions I’ll have to work around.
My mind is full of algorithms and features. I got nowhere to put em.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart Doing it since Dec/Jan
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@mttaggart Sure! It's all about the journey, not the destination.
@aceryz @mttaggart Solving mysteries, puzzling, creating.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart I actually need recs for a .NET Framework OOP class. I never understood OOP then went and learned C and functional Python instead. But I have A Project in mind and OOP would be much more helpful.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart yes wassup
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@mttaggart yes wassup
@mttaggart in fact last time i went to my local hackerspace i spent the whole time talking to my buddy about not vibe-coded programming languages!
check out carp lang
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@mttaggart I actually need recs for a .NET Framework OOP class. I never understood OOP then went and learned C and functional Python instead. But I have A Project in mind and OOP would be much more helpful.
@mttaggart also the tool I’ve been working on recently, Gaia is all hand crafted with love. First public tool, so learned a lot.
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@sylvie @mttaggart this just in: no starch press is now using starch
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@sylvie Oh no! When did that happen? @mttaggart
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@mttaggart also the tool I’ve been working on recently, Gaia is all hand crafted with love. First public tool, so learned a lot.
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@mttaggart I have a handful of projects I want to start on but am stuck at the “which frameworks do I use?” and “how do I even set them up?” phase.
Even for simple work-related hacks. “Just point Claude at it.” Happy to (just to get past the boilerplate stage), but even that doesn’t answer all the questions I have.
Nor does it fill me with confidence that I won’t be stuck woth stupid architectural decisions I’ll have to work around.
My mind is full of algorithms and features. I got nowhere to put em.
@darthnull @mttaggart if it's an interactive sort of thing claude is gonna shunt you to gosh awful python + fastapi or daft node + express and (for either) bloated react + tailwind on the front * you'll regret both decisions at some point.
Tailwind lost so much revenue due to the LLMs that they're down to (I think) 1 full timer. I fear webawesome won't be around much longer. Svelte folks are also feeling it.
This is all by design too, and since LLMs cannot innovate, this is permahades tech.
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Is there anybody out there who still wants to learn programming by hand?
@mttaggart yea
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@darthnull @mttaggart if it's an interactive sort of thing claude is gonna shunt you to gosh awful python + fastapi or daft node + express and (for either) bloated react + tailwind on the front * you'll regret both decisions at some point.
Tailwind lost so much revenue due to the LLMs that they're down to (I think) 1 full timer. I fear webawesome won't be around much longer. Svelte folks are also feeling it.
This is all by design too, and since LLMs cannot innovate, this is permahades tech.
@darthnull @mttaggart oh, & since i mentioned tailwind, i will take an opportunity for an "old man yells at cloud" rant.
i used a non-ai generated Astro blog theme for one of my sites and realized too late it relies on tailwind.
tdy, i finally carved out the 20-30 human minutes today to figure out which daft tailwind idiom was breaking <td align="right"> on my tables (the cascade is different depending on context). i'm gonna strip it down to just basic CSS in the next available hacking slot.
