Actions speak louder than words.
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@rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.
@lambert @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission
I'm involved in some discussion on this matter. The short answer is that the app is not mandatory: one can use other factors. However, I only heard of few people that have figured out how to use the alternative factors.
Best,
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Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
maybe this helps:
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maybe this helps:
@faxe it does. I testet it on /e/OS which hat microg on board.
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Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
@jdelacueva @EUCommission A couple of years ago, I complained to the portal's assistance service about this very issue, and this is the reply I got.
With SMS now not any more an option, we are really left only with FIDO2 keys.
It is unclear why they can't use established OTP standards compliant with many different platforms, and, if they really, *really* need to re-invent the wheel, why they must release their solution only through US-based platforms that come with debatable ToS.
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@guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS,
, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit@GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.
I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.
I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.
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@GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.
I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.
I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.
@Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...
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@fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes
apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that
the os should be attesting this, not the apps@lumi Pretending that this is a good use for DRM has been a grift thirty years in the making.
https://web.archive.org/web/20141129042827/https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2016.wss
@jdelacueva @IvanSanchez @EUCommission @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout
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@Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...
@GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.
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@GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.
@Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.
2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps
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Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse. -
Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
> consider installing the Google Play Store and Google Play Services
Fun fact, it would be unofficial community hack and very propably against Google terms of service.
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@Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.
2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps
@GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.
But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.
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Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
@jdelacueva @EUCommission Certainly unnecessary, but EU pols (pols generally, in fact) don’t seem either well-informed or concerned about such important matters.
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Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
@jdelacueva @EUCommission Pues hay que ir buscando alternativa antes del capado de Android decretado por Google...
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@jdelacueva @EUCommission Similarly, that banks can deny you service because you're using a non-Google-approved system (instead of a wildly more insecure chinesium Android that was abandoned 5 years ago, which is magically still okay to use somehow), is an absolute disgrace and just really shouldn't be a thing.
@phl @jdelacueva @EUCommission *nods in GrapheneOS*
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Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.From what I understand, a workaround is to create a new user and install Google Play Services and this app just for that user. Then just switch between that user and your normal one.
When you switch back to your normal user, Google Play Services and everything else the other user has installed will stop running completely.
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Actions speak louder than words.
I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.
Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.
A frontal attack to our #privacy.
Stupid, no?
You mean you're unwilling to hand your personal information to oligarchs to increase their wealth for the privilege of using a communications network which they don't own and which your government mandates?
What nerve!
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@GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.
But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.
@Scofisticated @GOKUSHRM
I spent months and months trying to square the circle and ended up with a Pixel running Graphene as personal phone, and a cheap Samsung that's just a Teams + Authenticator + InTune solution...
I'm actually very happy and realising it reduces some other headaches I hadn't noticed, plus future proofs me against the corpo bullshit getting worse. -
@GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.
But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.
@Scofisticated until u/we find proper solution for this issue, keep 2 phone's and use separately for personal & professional work.. Or change ur work that doesn't need ms teams (joking
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@GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.
But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.
@Scofisticated am still at stock rom but without any google apps except google play service app (not updated & no internet connection). I also delete all my inbuilt apps like phone calculator clock weather message files music video player camera browser and replaced all with Foss apps. So zero corporate shit. I don't use any banking apps, I go to my bank and do things manually. That's how I keep my life easy and private (99%)
