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  3. There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

    The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

    rgulick@social.coopR peace@mstdn.caP apbblue@thepit.socialA glecharles@gardenstate.socialG richrockster@mastodon.socialR 29 Replies Last reply
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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

      Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

      The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

      rgulick@social.coopR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @futurebird

      My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.

      P idiran@livellosegreto.itI timtfj@mastodon.socialT dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD hosford42@techhub.socialH 6 Replies Last reply
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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

        Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

        The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

        peace@mstdn.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @futurebird

        Interesting topic. I am not old and I am not young .. depending on who you ask. I overall enjoy technology. I do want to share another time the government stepped in and told peeps what to do with tech, but it took a while to get it right.

        I am speaking about Broadcast HD Television Stations. Back before they even arrived in stores ( HD TVS) the gov made way for the technology by essentially taking the top 20 markets in the country and had them install HD towers !
        Pretty expensive and cool but just one thing, NO HD TVS in the stores for people to buy. NO Joke. I was a broadcast engineer at the time …that’s how I know 😉

        Anyway several several years later the TV’s arrived (expensive in the beginning of course) but now dirt cheap.
        This LLM stuff and Ai which is nonsense to me has got it all wrong in my opinion.
        Releasing stealing software on the public is not cool !!
        Look at the HD example … it was slower but much smarter.

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        • rgulick@social.coopR rgulick@social.coop

          @futurebird

          My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.

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          #4

          @rgulick @futurebird

          Good for them. I don't think people disdain AI because it's trendy to do so. I think it's because AI takes zero effort to make, so is synonymous with scams and stupidity.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

            Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

            The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

            apbblue@thepit.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @futurebird I've never been "hip and with it." So why start now? 😂

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

              Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

              The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

              glecharles@gardenstate.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @futurebird "do crime in a computer suit" 😂🔥

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

                richrockster@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @futurebird I’m old and I understand the technology - I find it either induces laziness or just has no real use case for the mass market. Or both.

                In fact friends and family both older and younger have become more concerned about AI merely because I, the tech nerd that they look to for their tech advice, is not endorsing such things as GenAI…

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                  Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                  The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

                  richpuchalsky@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @futurebird

                  It's not really true that "the most tech" people have the harshest words for it. Most tech people, including the tech influencers, have no real idea how technology works and are variously enthused by AI.

                  pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP snowfox@tech.lgbtS raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                    Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                    The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

                    indigoparadox@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @futurebird The only people I've personally met who have bought into LLM hype at face value are boomers... and I feel like it's related to that period in the 90s where some folks called the Internet a fad and nobody wants to look that foolish again.

                    Altho I am starting to wonder if there will still be an Internet in a few decades.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                      Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                      The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

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                      #10

                      @futurebird It really bugs me when someone I respect technically is a big AI fan.

                      But "programming" AI is really a form of hacking. You're trying to persuade an LLM to produce the right output. And hacking is really addictive. It's way more fun than project plans, and groups of people working together, and QA. It's a solo effort where you feel like you have a lot of power.

                      And I think that sucks in a lot of technical people.

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                        Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                        The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

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                        #11

                        @futurebird I think I played with AI when it first came out like it was a toy. I didn't understand about the environmental issues with data centers, or the fact that it's hoped-for profitability is based on its supposed ability to displace millions of white collar workers.

                        So now I guess it's going to cause a massive economic meltdown and create deadly viruses the moment one gets access to a CRISPR machine. It's too bad it couldn't just be a harmless toy that never did real damage.

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                        • richpuchalsky@mastodon.socialR richpuchalsky@mastodon.social

                          @futurebird

                          It's not really true that "the most tech" people have the harshest words for it. Most tech people, including the tech influencers, have no real idea how technology works and are variously enthused by AI.

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                          #12

                          @richpuchalsky @futurebird

                          Hi, tech person here, 25+ year software career, LLMs are irredeemable garbage. HTH

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                          • rgulick@social.coopR rgulick@social.coop

                            @futurebird

                            My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.

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                            @rgulick @futurebird My kid is 16, and whenever he spots something ai-made his disgust is real.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                              Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                              The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

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                              #14

                              @futurebird

                              They legislated corporations being agents, to allow crime in a corporation suit.

                              I'm sure our legislators are being lobbied to do the same for LLMs. The lack of prosecution so far confirms this.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                                Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                                The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

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                                #15

                                @futurebird
                                My 32 yo bro uses it as a toy. To make funny photos and make it say funny things about his friends. The photos are pretty hilarious tbh so i get the appeal of playing, but i know too much (about the social & environmental affects, not the tech) to use it. He doesn't use it for any kind of business or educational purpose. So theres a contingent of folks who "like" AI but still don't take it seriously.

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                                • rgulick@social.coopR rgulick@social.coop

                                  @futurebird

                                  My grandkids (13 and 10) use 'AI' as shorthand for 'garbage' art/film/writing/etc, and the same for every kid in their school.

                                  timtfj@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @rgulick @futurebird I saw someone else mention that too, maybe a year or so ago.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                                    Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                                    The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

                                    lj@sunny.gardenL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @futurebird LOL. So true. This old person understands tech a lot better than most... And I loathe AI.

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                                    • apbblue@thepit.socialA apbblue@thepit.social

                                      @futurebird I've never been "hip and with it." So why start now? 😂

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                                      #18

                                      @APBBlue @futurebird Dunno. Maybe as some sort of penance? Have you done anything needing one?

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                                      • timtfj@mastodon.socialT timtfj@mastodon.social

                                        @APBBlue @futurebird Dunno. Maybe as some sort of penance? Have you done anything needing one?

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                                        #19

                                        @timtfj @futurebird probably

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                                        • glecharles@gardenstate.socialG glecharles@gardenstate.social

                                          @futurebird "do crime in a computer suit" 😂🔥

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                                          #20

                                          @glecharles @futurebird

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