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  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

    some fuckwad in one of the subsidiaries decided to try creating a compound with silica to save money on the chalk used over 100 years to make toothpaste.

    it ended up as exactly as you can imagine: the company paying up for “personal injury” cases and gagging people about mentioning anything in public.

    which takes me back to the point of the triclosan patent: they literally were trying to create a need for an antimicrobial that wasn’t there…🧵

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    #17

    @blogdiva Hace poco hubo alertas sanitarias en varios países de América Latina por un ingrediente de la crema dental Colgate, justamente un aditivo para bajar costos https://remac-dent.mx/blogs/nuevos/retiran-una-pasta-colgate-lo-que-todo-dentista-debe-saber-y-que-si-recomendar-a-sus-pacientes

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    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

      with the #AIDS crisis, they believed #triclosan would be the inevitable product to buy, cementing the company’s market dominance in all things detergent… because they didn't even want to make soap. it was cheap chemicals all the way to the bank for this group of Fortune 500 money-grubbing morons.

      they stuck triclosan into everything they could. after all, they held the patent to the chemical.

      so when i asked them if they had done any studies on the effects on normal skin & gut flora 🧵…

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      #18

      they not only said they were following FDA guidelines ―which they helped rewrite, by the way― and the testing proved triclosan didn't kill people immediately, so the products were safe to use under those guidelines.

      not only everything i wrote going forward had to be approved by several suits in legal, this is now their legacy:

      Antibiotic resistance linked to common household disinfectant triclosan | ScienceDaily - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170703085348.htm

      🧵…

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      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

        they not only said they were following FDA guidelines ―which they helped rewrite, by the way― and the testing proved triclosan didn't kill people immediately, so the products were safe to use under those guidelines.

        not only everything i wrote going forward had to be approved by several suits in legal, this is now their legacy:

        Antibiotic resistance linked to common household disinfectant triclosan | ScienceDaily - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170703085348.htm

        🧵…

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        #19

        Triclosan: A Widespread Environmental Toxicant with Many Biological Effects - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4774862/

        Frontiers | The impact of triclosan on the spread of antibiotic resistance in the environment - https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/microbiology/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2014.00780/full

        Triclosan: an Instructive Tale - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5118979/

        so, to recap:

        1. i was there, working in one of the companies investing in the deregulation of not just testing of new pharmaceuticals but redefining testing… 🧵

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        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

          Triclosan: A Widespread Environmental Toxicant with Many Biological Effects - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4774862/

          Frontiers | The impact of triclosan on the spread of antibiotic resistance in the environment - https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/microbiology/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2014.00780/full

          Triclosan: an Instructive Tale - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5118979/

          so, to recap:

          1. i was there, working in one of the companies investing in the deregulation of not just testing of new pharmaceuticals but redefining testing… 🧵

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          #20

          @blogdiva that's definitely a case of "they should have looked at the barebones physical facts about the substance and realized maybe this would be bad to let loose in the environment". it hits a kind of "sour spot" (opposite of a sweet spot heh) in terms of being low in solubility (so it doesn't wash away quickly) and slow to release its chlorine compared to hypochlorites. But my guess is that it's just these two traits that made it seem like a great thing to put in toilets and such

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          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

            Triclosan: A Widespread Environmental Toxicant with Many Biological Effects - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4774862/

            Frontiers | The impact of triclosan on the spread of antibiotic resistance in the environment - https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/microbiology/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2014.00780/full

            Triclosan: an Instructive Tale - PMC - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5118979/

            so, to recap:

            1. i was there, working in one of the companies investing in the deregulation of not just testing of new pharmaceuticals but redefining testing… 🧵

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            #21

            2. i’ve outlined my experience with both sides of the changes:

            - 2a. ACTIVE ingredients, like triclosan ―which were always problematic

            - 2b. INACTIVE ingredients in pharmaceuticals and cosmeceuticals that are the most often involved in what the industry called “personal injury” cases. in my case it involved cancer immunotherapy. in my son’s case, immunization.

            all this to say: in spite of those 1994 changes, we should have more than one choice of #vaccines BECAUSE OF #ALLERGIES 🧵…

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            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

              CP had spent millions into greasing palms in DC for changes like:

              Federal Register, Volume 59 Issue 116 (Friday, June 17, 1994) - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1994-06-17/html/94-14503.htm

              Federal Register, Volume 59 Issue 190 (Monday, October 3, 1994) - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1994-10-03/html/94-24052.htm

              these involve the definition of antimicrobial and the testing and labeling of pharmaceutical products, including cosmeceuticals like toothpaste (fluoride is a pharmaceutical, toothpaste a teeth cosmetic, hence a cosmeceutical)

              🧵…

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              #22

              @blogdiva
              For shits sake! How are we still alive at all?

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              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                2. i’ve outlined my experience with both sides of the changes:

                - 2a. ACTIVE ingredients, like triclosan ―which were always problematic

                - 2b. INACTIVE ingredients in pharmaceuticals and cosmeceuticals that are the most often involved in what the industry called “personal injury” cases. in my case it involved cancer immunotherapy. in my son’s case, immunization.

                all this to say: in spite of those 1994 changes, we should have more than one choice of #vaccines BECAUSE OF #ALLERGIES 🧵…

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                #23

                we didn't have the combined MMRs in Puerto Rico when i was kid. that’s why kids adopted from countries without it, get the separate ones.

                the choice of separate and combined should be readily available AND FREE. money, not public health, is why we are forced into the combo; just as i was forced into anaphylactic shock 3 times to use an additives laden chemo solution.

                money, not science, is why the insurance and the hospital forced my doctor to use the cheaper chemo solution… 🧵…

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                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                  why do i give you this background context to discuss this #RFK #MMR #vaccines nonesense?

                  🗣BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IN HOW INACTIVE INGREDIENTS ARE TREATED

                  my son had an anaphylactic reaction to the MMRs. you don't want to know how it feels to have the limp body of your baby after doing the “right thing” and being a responsible parent.

                  but the gaslighting about inactive ingredients in vaccines and immunotherapy is what also almost killed me during chemo… 🧵…

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                  #24

                  @blogdiva I have no words …😭

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                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                    we didn't have the combined MMRs in Puerto Rico when i was kid. that’s why kids adopted from countries without it, get the separate ones.

                    the choice of separate and combined should be readily available AND FREE. money, not public health, is why we are forced into the combo; just as i was forced into anaphylactic shock 3 times to use an additives laden chemo solution.

                    money, not science, is why the insurance and the hospital forced my doctor to use the cheaper chemo solution… 🧵…

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                    #25

                    to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                    which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                    really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                    all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                      to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                      which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                      really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                      all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                      #26

                      @blogdiva

                      indeed.

                      i'm one of those folks allergic/reactive to egg based vaccines. i am extremely excited to be able to get the first flu vaccine i'm been able to get.

                      safe and affordable/free choices of vaccines makes the entire population safer and healthier.

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                        which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                        really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                        all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                        #27

                        @blogdiva a child dying is literally never ever for the greater good. I’m so sorry you guys went through that.

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                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                          we didn't have the combined MMRs in Puerto Rico when i was kid. that’s why kids adopted from countries without it, get the separate ones.

                          the choice of separate and combined should be readily available AND FREE. money, not public health, is why we are forced into the combo; just as i was forced into anaphylactic shock 3 times to use an additives laden chemo solution.

                          money, not science, is why the insurance and the hospital forced my doctor to use the cheaper chemo solution… 🧵…

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                          #28

                          @blogdiva

                          the US doesn't have "health care". we have the "health insurance industry" masquerading as health care.

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                            which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                            really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                            all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                            #29

                            PS:

                            ALLERGIES TESTING ―from cradle to grave― SHOULD BE STANDARD PREVENTIVE MEDICINE PRACTICE.

                            this is why my sons still go to their “baby doctor”. he’s one of the best in Family Medicine and this is the clinic’s routine protocol.

                            it should be, after those 1994 changes to the FDA.

                            //🧵

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                            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                              🗣AAAAAAAAAUGH!

                              ❝ Kennedy claimed at one point: “Something happened in the mid-90s that changed our children, and it has to be an environmental exposure.” ❞
                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/10/trump-vaccines-executive-order-measles

                              i am one of those mothers who had her child have an anaphylactic reaction to the MMRs in the 1990s and am here to tell you this fascist fuckwad should know it had nothing to do with the #vaccines and everything to do with the changes to FDA regulation that happened in 1994 during the Clinton administration

                              🧵…

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                              #30

                              @blogdiva federal funding for early diagnosis in schools, and having it in the DSM as a diagnosis probably helped a bit.

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                              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                PS:

                                ALLERGIES TESTING ―from cradle to grave― SHOULD BE STANDARD PREVENTIVE MEDICINE PRACTICE.

                                this is why my sons still go to their “baby doctor”. he’s one of the best in Family Medicine and this is the clinic’s routine protocol.

                                it should be, after those 1994 changes to the FDA.

                                //🧵

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                                #31

                                PS²:

                                this is not a fucking paper, so all the caveats apply to this thread; but wanted to add:

                                not all the 1994 changes were bad. i believe the statistical modeling involving old products was a good call. one of the CP CEO’s goals was to reduce animal testing. this was one of the factors that helped with that.

                                /🧵

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                                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                  to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                                  which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                                  really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                                  all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                                  #32

                                  @blogdiva 👀

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                                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                    to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                                    which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                                    really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                                    all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                                    #33

                                    @blogdiva WTAF!?

                                    I know I'm physically potentially intimidating, and as such, I try very hard not to be visibly angry or yell, but they would have heard me from the reception desk in my response to that one. After letting my wife take my son out of the room.

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                                    • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                      to this day, because of his allergies, my son needs to get special #flu #vaccines ordered.

                                      which is why he still goes to the same family doctor that tended him after i stormed out of that pediatrician’s office who literally said, “well, even if he died, it’s for the greater good”.

                                      really? no. forcing a cheaper vaccine isn't for the greater good. it’s for maximazing pharma profit.

                                      all vaccines should be free and there should be more than one choice available. THAT is the greater good. /🧵

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                                      #34

                                      @blogdiva WTAF!

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                                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                        PS:

                                        ALLERGIES TESTING ―from cradle to grave― SHOULD BE STANDARD PREVENTIVE MEDICINE PRACTICE.

                                        this is why my sons still go to their “baby doctor”. he’s one of the best in Family Medicine and this is the clinic’s routine protocol.

                                        it should be, after those 1994 changes to the FDA.

                                        //🧵

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                                        #35

                                        @blogdiva ALL OF THIS 🔥

                                        As someone with mast cell activation syndrome (basically allergy cells react to things you aren’t allergic to) it is absurd the amount of dangerous shit corps put in everything. Trying to find skin/body care without benzene relatives is such a PITA. Even antihistamines, which logically should be highly attentive to potential anaphylactic triggers, are pick your poison on inactives.

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                                        • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                          PS:

                                          ALLERGIES TESTING ―from cradle to grave― SHOULD BE STANDARD PREVENTIVE MEDICINE PRACTICE.

                                          this is why my sons still go to their “baby doctor”. he’s one of the best in Family Medicine and this is the clinic’s routine protocol.

                                          it should be, after those 1994 changes to the FDA.

                                          //🧵

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                                          #36

                                          @blogdiva

                                          Thank you for the whole thread, it's educational.

                                          For allergies testing, my kids' allergist warned me that the technology isn't as good as we would hope. The standard scratch tests will give a lot of false positives. He himself tested positive for a dangerous level of peanut allergy, but eats peanuts without issues. So allergy tests were mostly used to confirm an allergy when they already have other evidence, e.g. "The patient was exposed to eggs and milk and had an allergic reaction, we will use the scratch test in the hope that only one or the other will test positive."

                                          I'm just some random idiot parroting what I heard from a doctor a decade back, so I am probably getting the details wrong. That's my memory of the discussion.

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