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More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please.

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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

    A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

    Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

    phreakmonkey@infosec.exchangeP kagan@wandering.shopK kats@chaosfem.twK jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ kirch@tilde.zoneK 11 Replies Last reply
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    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

      More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

      A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

      Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

      phreakmonkey@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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      @JessTheUnstill if anyone in your sphere decides to do this, I'll happily apply to be the multi-hat wearing Staff Security Engineer / Security Director / whatever, for a steal. 😛

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      • phreakmonkey@infosec.exchangeP phreakmonkey@infosec.exchange

        @JessTheUnstill if anyone in your sphere decides to do this, I'll happily apply to be the multi-hat wearing Staff Security Engineer / Security Director / whatever, for a steal. 😛

        phreakmonkey@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @JessTheUnstill though you've probably already got that position on lock, eh? 😂

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        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

          More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

          A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

          Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

          kagan@wandering.shopK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @JessTheUnstill Yes, more of this, please!

          Also, I'm just now dropping out of web development to become a bartender, but if someone _does_ start a thing like this, and wants a front-end web dev who cares about accessibility and user experience (and can code vanilla JS)... hey, get in touch! I'd love to make web sites/apps with _craft and care_ again, instead of these awful, React monstrosities.

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          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

            More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

            A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

            Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

            kats@chaosfem.twK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @JessTheUnstill This was my dream on exiting Big Tech. Still somewhat tempting.

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            • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

              More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

              A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

              Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

              jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              If it weren't for the fact that I don't know the first damn thing about starting or running a corp, and it'd liquidate my retirement funds to even start buying infrastructure and hiring people...

              jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ demi@xeno.glyphpress.comD 2 Replies Last reply
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              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                If it weren't for the fact that I don't know the first damn thing about starting or running a corp, and it'd liquidate my retirement funds to even start buying infrastructure and hiring people...

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                #7

                Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

                arrjay@tacobelllabs.netA epic_null@infosec.exchangeE mochi@retro.pizzaM astraluma@tacobelllabs.netA 4 Replies Last reply
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                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                  Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

                  arrjay@tacobelllabs.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @JessTheUnstill with bonus "can't tell anyone" national security letter

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

                    epic_null@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @JessTheUnstill Even still, there are benefits to working with a company that the fash have to ask if they want info, rather than a company that is actively providing that info...

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                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                      More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                      A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                      Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

                      kirch@tilde.zoneK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @JessTheUnstill if anyone has a business that values curiosity, integrity, and loyalty then sign me up 😅

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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        Also, I'm American, so the fash could just walk up to the door, stick a subpoena in my face, and demand I hand over customer data or go to jail forever.

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                        @JessTheUnstill Hard to give data you never collected in the first place. Remember that time Signal was ordered to give all their data on a specific user and they gave them everything, which was their name (already known to the state), their phone number (trivial for them to check as well anyway), and the date the account was created, that's it. They complied with the law without violating customer privacy.

                        If the law changes to require companies to collect user data, that's a different story, and I think that heavily depends on what kind of service we're talking about.

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                        • arrjay@tacobelllabs.netA arrjay@tacobelllabs.net

                          @JessTheUnstill with bonus "can't tell anyone" national security letter

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                          @arrjay @JessTheUnstill
                          That's what Warrant Canaries are for.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

                          jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ patrick@retro.socialP jay_peper@chaos.socialJ 3 Replies Last reply
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                          • realgene@hachyderm.ioR realgene@hachyderm.io

                            @arrjay @JessTheUnstill
                            That's what Warrant Canaries are for.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

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                            @RealGene @arrjay Sure, but once you trigger your warrant canary, anyone privacy sensitive considers you compromised and abandons your service.

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                            • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                              More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                              A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                              Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

                              stevensaus@faithcollapsing.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @JessTheUnstill

                              Yes. This is the way; there's plenty of evidence and research that this kind of cooperative model works and can thrive even in a capitalist hellscape.

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                                @stacey_campbell Cool!

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                                • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

                                  @JessTheUnstill Even still, there are benefits to working with a company that the fash have to ask if they want info, rather than a company that is actively providing that info...

                                  at1st@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @Epic_Null @JessTheUnstill Not as ideal as a company that *can* deny the fash the info without going to jail, because they're technically in a non-fash country.

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                                  • at1st@mstdn.caA at1st@mstdn.ca

                                    @Epic_Null @JessTheUnstill Not as ideal as a company that *can* deny the fash the info without going to jail, because they're technically in a non-fash country.

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                                    @AT1ST @JessTheUnstill Yeah... but you gotta work up to a non-fash country. A good portion of how we got here was a total market control over certain industries by a handful of companies. Breaking out of that would go a long way towards re-establishing ourselves.

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                                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                      @RealGene @arrjay Sure, but once you trigger your warrant canary, anyone privacy sensitive considers you compromised and abandons your service.

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                                      @JessTheUnstill @RealGene @arrjay Hey that's my sign! I would be happy to do email support and small web tweaks and copy editing for this hypothetical enterprise.

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                                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                        More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                                        A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                                        Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                                        @JessTheUnstill Craigslist still looks like it came from a 2002 senior student project and I have yet to hear about them rebranding to crAIgslist to reactualize the paradigm.

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                                        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                          More "boring" service providers who are content with a modest profit margin and slow organic growth, please. I don't even care if the UI looks "dated" and new features take a long time to be built. Traditional boring bare metal, only add new customers when you have capacity to support it, whatever.

                                          A company of 50+ year old tech veterans who have been laid off and left behind from age discrimination just looking to keep the bills paid until retirement.

                                          Run it like a co-op, like a little credit union that isn't looking to expand quickly, just serve their little niche of the community.

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                                          @JessTheUnstill @PastaThief This is one of my fantasies. Helping people upgrade things with ancient dependencies, cleaning up slop after the collapse, moving things out of the cloud to on-prem or a local colo.

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