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  3. You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

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  • zed@mstdn.partyZ zed@mstdn.party

    @renata I never liked them, but I didn’t hate Waymo’s as an SF biker, because at first they respected all the laws, never drove nor parked in bike lanes, always signaled, and were easily predictable.

    Sometime early 2024 is when they started intentionally making illegal maneuvers, and using bike lanes.

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    #31

    @zed @renata If memory serves, they started patterning waymos after actual human drivers instead of strictly rule driven.

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    • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

      You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

      Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

      We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

      Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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      #32

      @renata I realize you don't need any more convincing, but holy shit, waymo is a plague. Worst, to me, is that with all their cameras, they're traveling surveillance machines. That's why you always see them burning at big protests here - it's not random property destruction, it's self-defense.

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      • crzwdjk@mastodon.socialC crzwdjk@mastodon.social

        @renata I thought the actual reason was that Doug Ford got mad seeing cyclists pass him as he got driven to work. Which is why the bike lane they are removing is specifically the one that is on his way to work.

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        #33

        @crzwdjk @renata can we somehow organize, once the bike lane is gone, so we're always in front of him in the car lane when he goes to work. Like someone is outside his home and signals people that he's leaving for work. Then cyclists are positioned along his route to pull in front of him and ride real slow.

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        • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

          @digipooch The Ontario government. Yes, it’s stupid but they’re spending millions of dollars to remove existing bike infrastructure.

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          #34

          @renata @digipooch And the Alberta government now.

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          • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

            You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

            Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

            We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

            Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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            #35

            @renata
            I said this the morning the story broke so no you're not crazy

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            • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

              You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

              Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

              We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

              Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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              #36

              @renata They are a nuisance here in San Francisco. I've experienced them blocking the entrance to my Cancer Hospital when I arrive for an appointment, and they're still there when I leave.

              I'm in survivor care now. But so many other patients aren't doing as well, and having the entrance blocked is an ordeal for many.

              Not to mention their freezing when we had a black out. They just sat there, unable to make left turns without a functioning street light.

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              • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                @renata WTF?!

                '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                #37

                @Chigaze @renata So those who use them ARE as big an asshole has any who allows them on the street, as well as the company.

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                • derderwish@social.chaotikum.orgD derderwish@social.chaotikum.org

                  @renata
                  I hope you are prepared for these "funny" side effects, too:
                  https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac

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                  #38

                  @derderwish Damn I would have torched these things... Self-defense.
                  @renata

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                  • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                    @renata WTF?!

                    '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                    I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                    #39

                    @Chigaze @renata It was recently changed but Waymo couldn’t get tickets in California. There may be other places where driverless vehicles cannot get a ticket.

                    Remember that these types of violations by AVs aren’t a momentary lack of judgement or attention but a design choice that was debated in meetings by multiple people

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                    • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                      @renata WTF?!

                      '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                      I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                      #40

                      @Chigaze @renata hitmen say that murder awareness is too high a bar, because customers want other people to be dead.

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                      • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                        You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                        Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                        We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                        Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                        #41

                        @renata It's bad, but I'm going to go with Doug and his late brother's love of trucks, and Doug's endless petty revenge schemes against Toronto. Sadly I've not seen Toronto opposing Waymo.

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                        • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                          You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                          Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                          We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                          Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                          #42

                          @renata Honestly I'm sure that's part of it, but honestly it's also just Doug taking revenge on Toronto for being upset that his Brother was smoking crack in office and took steps to remove him from office as a result. Frankly it shouldn't be allowed for the Provincial Government to override the City like that.

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                          • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                            @renata Are the Waymo cars equipped to handle the cold?

                            How about Molotov cocktails?

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                            #43

                            @grumble209 @renata They can't even handle a traffic cone being placed on the hood.

                            Also worth mentioning that molotov cocktails are usually not the best idea.

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                            • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                              @renata WTF?!

                              '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                              I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                              #44

                              @Chigaze @renata
                              But with AI all Waymo has to do is vibe code bike lane awareness, right?

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                              • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                @Chigaze @renata Well, I think that basically seals Waymo's fate in the Netherlands and Denmark. 😜

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                                #45

                                @datarama @Chigaze @renata Wayless

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                                • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                  You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                  Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                  We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                  Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                  #46

                                  @renata

                                  This things are a scourge. If you can, keep them out of your town or city.

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                                  • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                    You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                    Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                    We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                    Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                    #47

                                    @renata

                                    Maybe @notjustbikes has something to say.

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                                    • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                                      @renata WTF?!

                                      '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                                      I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                                      #48

                                      @Chigaze
                                      @renata
                                      Ford told child death critics that even slightly shorter hoods is "too high a bar" because customers want to feel like big manly men.

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                                      • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                        You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                        Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                        We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                        Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                        #49

                                        @renata Who owns Waymo?

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                                        • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                          You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                          Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                          We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                          Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                          #50

                                          @renata How many strikes before we just ban automobiles in cities, because this would certainly be one.

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