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  3. You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

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  • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

    You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

    Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

    We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

    Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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    #32

    @renata I realize you don't need any more convincing, but holy shit, waymo is a plague. Worst, to me, is that with all their cameras, they're traveling surveillance machines. That's why you always see them burning at big protests here - it's not random property destruction, it's self-defense.

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    • crzwdjk@mastodon.socialC crzwdjk@mastodon.social

      @renata I thought the actual reason was that Doug Ford got mad seeing cyclists pass him as he got driven to work. Which is why the bike lane they are removing is specifically the one that is on his way to work.

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      #33

      @crzwdjk @renata can we somehow organize, once the bike lane is gone, so we're always in front of him in the car lane when he goes to work. Like someone is outside his home and signals people that he's leaving for work. Then cyclists are positioned along his route to pull in front of him and ride real slow.

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      • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

        @digipooch The Ontario government. Yes, it’s stupid but they’re spending millions of dollars to remove existing bike infrastructure.

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        #34

        @renata @digipooch And the Alberta government now.

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        • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

          You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

          Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

          We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

          Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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          #35

          @renata
          I said this the morning the story broke so no you're not crazy

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          • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

            You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

            Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

            We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

            Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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            #36

            @renata They are a nuisance here in San Francisco. I've experienced them blocking the entrance to my Cancer Hospital when I arrive for an appointment, and they're still there when I leave.

            I'm in survivor care now. But so many other patients aren't doing as well, and having the entrance blocked is an ordeal for many.

            Not to mention their freezing when we had a black out. They just sat there, unable to make left turns without a functioning street light.

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            • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

              @renata WTF?!

              '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

              I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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              #37

              @Chigaze @renata So those who use them ARE as big an asshole has any who allows them on the street, as well as the company.

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              • derderwish@social.chaotikum.orgD derderwish@social.chaotikum.org

                @renata
                I hope you are prepared for these "funny" side effects, too:
                https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac

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                #38

                @derderwish Damn I would have torched these things... Self-defense.
                @renata

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                • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                  @renata WTF?!

                  '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                  I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                  #39

                  @Chigaze @renata It was recently changed but Waymo couldn’t get tickets in California. There may be other places where driverless vehicles cannot get a ticket.

                  Remember that these types of violations by AVs aren’t a momentary lack of judgement or attention but a design choice that was debated in meetings by multiple people

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                  • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                    @renata WTF?!

                    '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                    I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                    #40

                    @Chigaze @renata hitmen say that murder awareness is too high a bar, because customers want other people to be dead.

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                    • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                      You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                      Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                      We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                      Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                      #41

                      @renata It's bad, but I'm going to go with Doug and his late brother's love of trucks, and Doug's endless petty revenge schemes against Toronto. Sadly I've not seen Toronto opposing Waymo.

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                      • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                        You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                        Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                        We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                        Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                        #42

                        @renata Honestly I'm sure that's part of it, but honestly it's also just Doug taking revenge on Toronto for being upset that his Brother was smoking crack in office and took steps to remove him from office as a result. Frankly it shouldn't be allowed for the Provincial Government to override the City like that.

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                        • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                          @renata Are the Waymo cars equipped to handle the cold?

                          How about Molotov cocktails?

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                          #43

                          @grumble209 @renata They can't even handle a traffic cone being placed on the hood.

                          Also worth mentioning that molotov cocktails are usually not the best idea.

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                          • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                            @renata WTF?!

                            '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                            I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                            #44

                            @Chigaze @renata
                            But with AI all Waymo has to do is vibe code bike lane awareness, right?

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                            • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                              @Chigaze @renata Well, I think that basically seals Waymo's fate in the Netherlands and Denmark. 😜

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                              #45

                              @datarama @Chigaze @renata Wayless

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                              • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                #46

                                @renata

                                This things are a scourge. If you can, keep them out of your town or city.

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                                • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                  You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                  Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                  We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                  Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                  #47

                                  @renata

                                  Maybe @notjustbikes has something to say.

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                                  • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                                    @renata WTF?!

                                    '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                                    I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                                    #48

                                    @Chigaze
                                    @renata
                                    Ford told child death critics that even slightly shorter hoods is "too high a bar" because customers want to feel like big manly men.

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                                    • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                      You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                      Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                      We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                      Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                      #49

                                      @renata Who owns Waymo?

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                                      • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

                                        You may say it's a conspiracy theory but Waymo is arriving in Toronto and we have this master plan to dismantle our bike lanes happening at the same time

                                        Waymo has issues with San Francisco bike lanes https://futurism.com/future-society/waymo-bike-lanes-traffic

                                        We start removing our bike lanes in #toronto the same day Waymo puts their first cars in the streets for testing (plan to rollout by 2028)

                                        Yes I am suspicious AF #waymo #ontario #biketooter #onpoli

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                                        #50

                                        @renata How many strikes before we just ban automobiles in cities, because this would certainly be one.

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                                        • chigaze@cosocial.caC chigaze@cosocial.ca

                                          @renata WTF?!

                                          '…Waymo told safe street advocates that bike lane-awareness is “too high a bar,” because customers want to be dropped off in them.’

                                          I’m failing to see why legally this is even remotely relevant. It would be like allowing them to speed or run red lights because customers want to go faster.

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                                          #51

                                          @Chigaze @renata In #Germany, this would basically count as admitting to violating #TrafficCode on Purpose, which is at least doubling the penalty and gets driving licenses suspended due to the driver 'proving to be socio-psychologically unfit for the responsibilities of participating in traffic'…

                                          • And we ain't talking about mere #fines here, but "Endangering Traffic Participants" is entering #felony territory with (in this case) at least a temporary license suspension if not permanent ban from reacquiring a driving license unless cleared with a psych eval.
                                            • And given #Waymo is a #business doing that, this means it's a #CriminalEnterprise who's actions aim against laws, so they can be banned as a #CriminalOrganization and their assets seized as well as their entire staff from CEO to driver/janitor/dispatcher arrested for their roles.

                                          And now you know why Waymo won't come to Germany.

                                          • And mind you Germany is already considered the most lenient #EU / #EFTA member with the lowest fines adj. to income.
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