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  • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

    @AAKL @lproven there's nothing to turn to though

    aakl@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @aburka @lproven There are some options, but they're hampered by lack of reach and cross-platform limitations: https://www.techradar.com/best/secure-smartphones

    joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ 1 Reply Last reply
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    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

      Your phone is about to stop being yours.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

      125 days until lockdown

      Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

      Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

      janvlug@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @lproven Better switch to #MobileLinux.

      rcosta@archaeo.socialR 1 Reply Last reply
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      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

        Your phone is about to stop being yours.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

        125 days until lockdown

        Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

        Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

        float13@masto.hackers.townF This user is from outside of this forum
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        float13@masto.hackers.town
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        #7

        @lproven

        Will Graphene still be an option?

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        • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

          @aburka @lproven There are some options, but they're hampered by lack of reach and cross-platform limitations: https://www.techradar.com/best/secure-smartphones

          joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @AAKL @aburka @lproven Is GrapheneOS still going to function? https://grapheneos.org/

          aakl@infosec.exchangeA radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR 2 Replies Last reply
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          • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

            Your phone is about to stop being yours.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

            125 days until lockdown

            Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

            Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

            joelbarr@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            joelbarr@mastodon.online
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            #9

            @lproven good luck finding a carrier that supports something other than Apple or Android

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            • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

              @AAKL @aburka @lproven Is GrapheneOS still going to function? https://grapheneos.org/

              aakl@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @joshg @aburka @lproven According to this, it's a "stripped down Android version" https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1n22hdx/can_someone_explain_grapheneos_to_me_like_im_five/

              https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/completeness-of-protection-and-usability-tradeoffs-for-grapheneos/24634/2

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              • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                125 days until lockdown

                Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @lproven mobile-service-optimised-webservers anyone?

                I prefer running most things with apps on an alternative web-browser interface if they present one. Car is an exception.

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                • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                  Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                  125 days until lockdown

                  Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                  Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                  lopta@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #12

                  @lproven It would be nice if (non-Android) Linux phones were an option.

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                  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                    125 days until lockdown

                    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                    falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    falcennial@mastodon.social
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                    #13

                    @lproven holy crap! fuck google

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                    • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

                      @AAKL @aburka @lproven Is GrapheneOS still going to function? https://grapheneos.org/

                      radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

                      High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

                      Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

                      Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

                      The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

                      The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

                      @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

                      @GrapheneOS

                      #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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                      • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

                        You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

                        High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

                        Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

                        Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

                        The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

                        The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

                        @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

                        @GrapheneOS

                        #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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                        #15

                        @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS Unfortunately, the antitrust trial let Google go scot-free. It's now back to its old antics.

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                        • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                          @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS Unfortunately, the antitrust trial let Google go scot-free. It's now back to its old antics.

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                          #16

                          All of us seem to have forgotten, and I'm pointing the finger at myself, that the cloud is just somebody else's computer

                          It turns out that even when you buy Hardware with features companies have the balls, to take them away with impunity.

                          @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

                          #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification #enshittification

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                          • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                            Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                            125 days until lockdown

                            Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                            Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                            spycrab@kolektiva.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            spycrab@kolektiva.social
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                            #17

                            @lproven you can still download APKs just not from the Google Play store as I understand it.

                            So things like FDroid should still work or your favorite alternative SDK platform

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                            • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                              Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                              125 days until lockdown

                              Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                              Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                              praetor@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #18

                              @lproven That depends. I've started doing Apple development, and at first it's like "why do you want $99"? But you get a lot for the $99 as a developer. They take care of all the regulatory crap and the taxes. By the time you pay an account to do all that, it pays for itself. They have business support. I've found its actually well worth it.

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                              • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

                                All of us seem to have forgotten, and I'm pointing the finger at myself, that the cloud is just somebody else's computer

                                It turns out that even when you buy Hardware with features companies have the balls, to take them away with impunity.

                                @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

                                #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification #enshittification

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                                #19

                                @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS That's true. Watch how corporations have been shamelessly co-opting open source and, more recently, showering it with money, which usually comes with strings attached.

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                                • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                  Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                  125 days until lockdown

                                  Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                  Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                  fxiz@mastodon.social
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                                  #20

                                  @lproven does it mean if I build an app on .net and push the build on my phone, it will not work? Nah. That can't be true. Ohh wait a minute. I use a ~7 year old nokia phone. Only God can send an update on it now.

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                                  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                    125 days until lockdown

                                    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                    #21

                                    @lproven I think more people should write to their MP about this. Most MPs won't understand the implications, but if they get enough emails and letters on the subject they will hopefully either look into it, or maybe forward them to someone centrally in the party.

                                    From one point of view, it's a restraint on competition - Google control both the platform (Android) and the main app store, from which they earn commission from purchases.

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                                    • jonpsp@mstdn.socialJ jonpsp@mstdn.social

                                      @lproven I think more people should write to their MP about this. Most MPs won't understand the implications, but if they get enough emails and letters on the subject they will hopefully either look into it, or maybe forward them to someone centrally in the party.

                                      From one point of view, it's a restraint on competition - Google control both the platform (Android) and the main app store, from which they earn commission from purchases.

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                                      #22

                                      @lproven it could also result in someone not being able to use their apps if the US Government applies sanctions to them, then the US Play Store will be unavailable to them.

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                                      • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                                        @lproven Better switch to #MobileLinux.

                                        rcosta@archaeo.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        @janvlug @lproven Something along those lines👍 We are not in 1999 anymore. If our smartphones are now so powerful as laptop computers why we still use them with training wheels OS versions? I want a smartphone with a full Linux OS and modular electronics that make possible to easily upgrade/repair it. I'm no computer/electronic expert, only tired of greedy people and waste of resources and pretty sure I'm not alone.

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                                        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                          Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                          125 days until lockdown

                                          Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                          Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

                                          roastbeefhashtag@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #24

                                          @lproven I'm still waiting to hear if all of my existing apps are going to stop working. Even my launcher is FOSS and not in the Play Store.

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