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  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

    125 days until lockdown

    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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    #13

    @lproven holy crap! fuck google

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    • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

      @AAKL @aburka @lproven Is GrapheneOS still going to function? https://grapheneos.org/

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      #14

      You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

      High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

      Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

      Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

      The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

      The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

      @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

      @GrapheneOS

      #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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      • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

        You will need a Google pixel phone, for Graphene OS.

        High end Android phones are out of my reach. I spend money on cycling parts

        Any phone above 200 USD is out of reach of most people where the salaries are 50 USD or less.

        Pixel phones are 700 USD or more

        The Motorola phones which will work with Graphene OS have not even been put into production yet

        The Android division of Google needs to be split up into parts like the Bell phone company for this treason

        @joshg @AAKL @aburka @lproven

        @GrapheneOS

        #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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        #15

        @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS Unfortunately, the antitrust trial let Google go scot-free. It's now back to its old antics.

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        • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

          @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS Unfortunately, the antitrust trial let Google go scot-free. It's now back to its old antics.

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          #16

          All of us seem to have forgotten, and I'm pointing the finger at myself, that the cloud is just somebody else's computer

          It turns out that even when you buy Hardware with features companies have the balls, to take them away with impunity.

          @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

          #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification #enshittification

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          • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

            Your phone is about to stop being yours.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

            125 days until lockdown

            Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

            Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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            #17

            @lproven you can still download APKs just not from the Google Play store as I understand it.

            So things like FDroid should still work or your favorite alternative SDK platform

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            • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

              Your phone is about to stop being yours.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

              125 days until lockdown

              Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

              Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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              #18

              @lproven That depends. I've started doing Apple development, and at first it's like "why do you want $99"? But you get a lot for the $99 as a developer. They take care of all the regulatory crap and the taxes. By the time you pay an account to do all that, it pays for itself. They have business support. I've found its actually well worth it.

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              • radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR radio_azureus@ioc.exchange

                All of us seem to have forgotten, and I'm pointing the finger at myself, that the cloud is just somebody else's computer

                It turns out that even when you buy Hardware with features companies have the balls, to take them away with impunity.

                @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

                #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification #enshittification

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                #19

                @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS That's true. Watch how corporations have been shamelessly co-opting open source and, more recently, showering it with money, which usually comes with strings attached.

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                • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                  Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                  125 days until lockdown

                  Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                  Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                  #20

                  @lproven does it mean if I build an app on .net and push the build on my phone, it will not work? Nah. That can't be true. Ohh wait a minute. I use a ~7 year old nokia phone. Only God can send an update on it now.

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                  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                    125 days until lockdown

                    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                    #21

                    @lproven I think more people should write to their MP about this. Most MPs won't understand the implications, but if they get enough emails and letters on the subject they will hopefully either look into it, or maybe forward them to someone centrally in the party.

                    From one point of view, it's a restraint on competition - Google control both the platform (Android) and the main app store, from which they earn commission from purchases.

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                    • jonpsp@mstdn.socialJ jonpsp@mstdn.social

                      @lproven I think more people should write to their MP about this. Most MPs won't understand the implications, but if they get enough emails and letters on the subject they will hopefully either look into it, or maybe forward them to someone centrally in the party.

                      From one point of view, it's a restraint on competition - Google control both the platform (Android) and the main app store, from which they earn commission from purchases.

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                      #22

                      @lproven it could also result in someone not being able to use their apps if the US Government applies sanctions to them, then the US Play Store will be unavailable to them.

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                      • janvlug@mastodon.socialJ janvlug@mastodon.social

                        @lproven Better switch to #MobileLinux.

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                        #23

                        @janvlug @lproven Something along those lines👍 We are not in 1999 anymore. If our smartphones are now so powerful as laptop computers why we still use them with training wheels OS versions? I want a smartphone with a full Linux OS and modular electronics that make possible to easily upgrade/repair it. I'm no computer/electronic expert, only tired of greedy people and waste of resources and pretty sure I'm not alone.

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                        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                          Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                          https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                          125 days until lockdown

                          Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                          Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                          #24

                          @lproven I'm still waiting to hear if all of my existing apps are going to stop working. Even my launcher is FOSS and not in the Play Store.

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                          • float13@masto.hackers.townF float13@masto.hackers.town

                            @lproven

                            Will Graphene still be an option?

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                            #25

                            @float13 @lproven

                            I mean, I sure as fuck hope so, otherwise nobody will be able to reach me. I'm not going back to Android or Apple. Fuck that noise,
                            I'll be fine without a phone.

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                            • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                              @Radio_Azureus @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS That's true. Watch how corporations have been shamelessly co-opting open source and, more recently, showering it with money, which usually comes with strings attached.

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                              #26

                              The Motorola phone I'm currently dictating this toot in, has cost me about 20 USD
                              I had to buy it as a replacement for one of my G2 GSMs, which means it's memory is extremely Limited.
                              However I can still do some simple things like working on the FediVerse.
                              In my country both GSM network providers stopped with / shut down the G2 networks with just 3 days notice, leaving us stranded with useless G2 GSM phones. I still have to replace six G2 GSM devices.

                              We just cannot afford phones on Android price levels when we only need to replace G2 GSM devices

                              @AAKL @joshg @aburka @lproven @GrapheneOS

                              #GrapheneOS #google #Android #treason #programming #Age #Verification

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                                #27

                                @rl_dane @AAKL @Radio_Azureus @joshg @lproven I'm still unclear on whether Google's upcoming lockdown will affect alternative ROMs, or whether they will be closing even more of the source code to prevent people getting around it

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                                • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                  Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                  125 days until lockdown

                                  Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                  Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                  #28

                                  @lproven we need effective anti-monopoly action from governments.

                                  You can own an operating system or an app store, not both.

                                  You can be a TV production company or a streaming platform, not both.

                                  You can be an advert broker or a content provider, not both.

                                  Forced unbundling now.

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                                  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                    Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                    125 days until lockdown

                                    Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                    Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                    #29

                                    @lproven (actually, people stopped owning phones when phone manufacturers figured out that they can put cryptographic keys into mask ROM on the SoC)

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                                    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                      Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                      125 days until lockdown

                                      Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                      Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                      #30

                                      @lproven thanks for the update looks like they are going to be like apple and worry about the money's guessing more.backdoors @lproven

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                                      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                        Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                        125 days until lockdown

                                        Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                        Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                        #31

                                        @lproven like, WHAT? Whoa! I'm thinking it might be time to ditch my smartphone, and just go to the laptop when I wanna get online 😡

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                                        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                                          Your phone is about to stop being yours.

                                          https://keepandroidopen.org/en/

                                          125 days until lockdown

                                          Starting September 2026, a silent update, nonconsensually pushed by Google, will block every Android app whose developer hasn't registered with Google, signed their contract, paid up, and handed over government ID.

                                          Every app and every device, worldwide, with no opt-out.

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                                          #32

                                          @lproven all the android elitists for years saying android was the best, look at them now. always found it super weird to be in google's back pocket...

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