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  3. Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate.

Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate.

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  • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

    @ricci @steve @dan the stamps really make the paperwork more satisfying

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    #45

    @irene @steve @dan we have a board game about the USPS with a little self inking stamp, so satisfying

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    • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

      Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

      ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

      I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

      hananc@tooot.imH This user is from outside of this forum
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      hananc@tooot.im
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      #46

      @dan In 2006 I was in Hungary and needed to buy medicinal alcohol in a pharmacy. The receipt specified the prices of the bottle, the alcohol and the cap.

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      • vwdasher@mymasto.comV This user is from outside of this forum
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        vwdasher@mymasto.com
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        #47

        @dan I hope she was pulling two wages for that 😂

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        • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

          Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

          ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

          I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

          sortius@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #48

          @dan it's kind of beautiful in its efficient inefficiency

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          • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

            Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

            ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

            I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

            ctrl@alico.nexusC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #49

            @dan@discuss.systems That's fucking hilarious tbh

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            • irene@discuss.systemsI irene@discuss.systems

              @ricci @steve @dan the stamps really make the paperwork more satisfying

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              #50

              @irene @ricci @steve @dan I have an old passport with a page where one side is a Russian VISA and the other a Chinese VISA, fun to show up in Washington DC with that 😉

              Proper bureacracy was described in the 1976 edition of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Tasks_of_Asterix - “The Place that Sends you Mad”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO9Lm_CXz0 (could not find an english edition 1,2,3, but has english subs 🙂 -- original was french/dutch/german

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              • jeroen@secluded.chJ jeroen@secluded.ch

                @irene @ricci @steve @dan I have an old passport with a page where one side is a Russian VISA and the other a Chinese VISA, fun to show up in Washington DC with that 😉

                Proper bureacracy was described in the 1976 edition of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Tasks_of_Asterix - “The Place that Sends you Mad”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO9Lm_CXz0 (could not find an english edition 1,2,3, but has english subs 🙂 -- original was french/dutch/german

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                #51

                @jeroen @irene @ricci @steve @dan

                I knew someone would flag up A38 🙂
                As a (local) government worker it is my code for when I encounter some truly arcane processes.

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                • vwdasher@mymasto.comV vwdasher@mymasto.com

                  @dan I hope she was pulling two wages for that 😂

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                  holliek72@mastodonapp.uk
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                  #52

                  @VWDasher @dan Exactly!

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                  • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                    Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                    ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                    I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

                    lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #53

                    @dan

                    I had a bureaucrat tell me to leave my document with him so it can be processed and come back next Monday, and when I told him that I couldn't as I was leaving the country, he gave me a weird look, took the document, stamped it and gave it back to me - "done !".

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                    • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                      Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                      ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                      I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

                      annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      annehargreaves@ioc.exchange
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                      #54

                      @dan This reminds me of the Twelve Tasks of Asterix. One scene was pretty much this.
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Tasks_of_Asterix

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                      • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                        Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                        ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                        I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

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                        #55

                        @dan

                        Literally they named the language (in English) after the process.

                        Mandarin is such an art it gets a language.

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                        • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                          Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                          ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                          I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

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                          agturcz@circumstances.run
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                          #56

                          @dan Just two windows? Try to enter/leave Turkmenistan when traveling on a motorcycle. And that with your visa already granted.

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                          • lolcat@digipres.clubL lolcat@digipres.club

                            @dan

                            Back in the 1980s, some Italian cafes employed a similar system. As a customer, you'd place your order at one window, and the clerk would give you a receipt/voucher. You'd then step to a second window, and hand over the slip of paper before stepping to a third window where you'd collect your coffee. I recall, though these are hazy old memories, at least one morning where it was the same person at each of the three windows.

                            Also, I once did the same PRC consulate dance in SF!

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                            #57

                            @lolcat
                            I too would stick to getting the customer to do all three windows. Some certainly have it as routine and I would not wish to upset them.
                            @dan

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                            • annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA annehargreaves@ioc.exchange

                              @dan This reminds me of the Twelve Tasks of Asterix. One scene was pretty much this.
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Tasks_of_Asterix

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                              #58

                              @annehargreaves @dan And here I was thinking that was an exaggeration.

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                              • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

                                @dan

                                The Brits take the greatest pride in their bureaucracy -- though the French, Russians, and Byzantine Greeks were tough competitors -- but the Chinese invented it.

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                                failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                                #59

                                @huntingdon @dan The Babylonians and Egyptians dispute who invented Bureacracy

                                you should have seen the forms required, during construction of the great Pyramid of Cheops, if a stone was delivered to the site and the stone was not in spec

                                page after page of papyrus

                                🙂

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                                • lolcat@digipres.clubL lolcat@digipres.club

                                  @dan

                                  Back in the 1980s, some Italian cafes employed a similar system. As a customer, you'd place your order at one window, and the clerk would give you a receipt/voucher. You'd then step to a second window, and hand over the slip of paper before stepping to a third window where you'd collect your coffee. I recall, though these are hazy old memories, at least one morning where it was the same person at each of the three windows.

                                  Also, I once did the same PRC consulate dance in SF!

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                                  failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                                  #60

                                  @lolcat @dan

                                  I went to Italy as a teenager in 1978 and I have zero memory of this

                                  all I recall is that Italian coffee is the best coffee

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                                  • kstatz12@discuss.systemsK kstatz12@discuss.systems

                                    @dan @ricci @steve @sharon at least it wasn't the Stanford band recreating the Irish Potato Famine on the field at Notre Dame.

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                                    #61

                                    @kstatz12 @dan @ricci @sharon the Brown band depicted a coat-hangar abortion in the halftime show at Holy Cross (still banned from campus 40 years later, I think) 😬.

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                                    • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                                      Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                                      ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                                      I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

                                      uint8_t@chaos.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      uint8_t@chaos.social
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                                      #62

                                      @dan this is exactly how hyperthreading in CPUs work

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                                      • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                                        Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                                        ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                                        I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

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                                        nick_stevens_graphics@mastodon.art
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                                        #63

                                        @dan

                                        I’d love her to watch Terry Gilliams Brazil… She’d probably assume it was a documentary…

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                                        • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                                          Some years ago, I needed to get an visa for urgent travel to China, a process that required me to fly down to SF and stand in a very long line at the Chinese consulate. When I finally handed the woman there my forms, she promptly stamped them and said "you need to take these to Window 2", pointing around the corner. So I walked around the corner...

                                          ...where *the same woman* swiveled her chair around and proceeded to check the stamp that she had just applied.

                                          I would have been annoyed if I wasn't in so much awe at discovering the purest form of bureaucracy.

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                                          peter_b@im-in.space
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                                          #64

                                          @dan I've written up notes for a D&D campaign in a surreal city, and one of the locations is a pair of buildings named the Tenements of Faith and the Tenements of State.

                                          The one is inhabited by bickering priests of innumerable minor gods, the other by low-level bureaucrats.

                                          I'll be stealing this for the latter.

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