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Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

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  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

    Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
    https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

    #Fediverse #Mastodon

    mcm_63@mastodon.unoM This user is from outside of this forum
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    mcm_63@mastodon.uno
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #70

    @rysiek

    „Unless someone buys the code off Rochko today and consolidates this mess ASAP, it can't survive.“

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

      Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
      https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

      #Fediverse #Mastodon

      eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #71

      @rysiek

      Welp, he was wrong about Mastodon fizzling out in two weeks, but the one thing he wasn't wrong about was Mastodon growing stagnant. Mastodon's sat at the same active user counts for a while and it's plateau'd. The platform hasn't seen any significant growth since the 2022 Twitter exodus, and though growth obviously isn't everything, Mastodon remains relatively niche.

      Still, funny reading about this dude just having a massive skill-issue with using Mastodon.

      #Mastodon #Twitter #FediMeta

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      • cass_m@socialbc.caC cass_m@socialbc.ca

        @moses_izumi I had assumed it was because of difficulty monetizing but data breech makes sense.

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        #72

        Cass🇨🇦 Well, the breech probably happened because Google dropped all investment in it. So, it’s all sort of the same thing, I’m sure.

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        • eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE eeveecraft@dragonscave.space

          @rysiek

          Welp, he was wrong about Mastodon fizzling out in two weeks, but the one thing he wasn't wrong about was Mastodon growing stagnant. Mastodon's sat at the same active user counts for a while and it's plateau'd. The platform hasn't seen any significant growth since the 2022 Twitter exodus, and though growth obviously isn't everything, Mastodon remains relatively niche.

          Still, funny reading about this dude just having a massive skill-issue with using Mastodon.

          #Mastodon #Twitter #FediMeta

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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #73

          @Eeveecraft counterpoint: https://pluralistic.net/tag/scalloped-growth/

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          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

            Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
            https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

            #Fediverse #Mastodon

            seyd@declin.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #74

            Извините, вы заблокированы.

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            • bodhipaksa@mastodon.scotB bodhipaksa@mastodon.scot

              @rysiek What a terrible article. It doesn't even give credit to John Mastodon for creating this site in the first place!

              ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #75

              @bodhipaksa @rysiek John Mastodon sadly had to wait over five more years to get proper credit. A disgrace, truly.

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              • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                @rysiek it has shrunk a lot which i am sad about, but what people need to remember is that foss shit never goes away, even when you want it to 😂

                rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #76

                @quinn I don't think growth for growth's sake is the way to go, and while it does provide *a* signal, it is not *the* signal so to speak.

                I fully expect Bluesky to start enshittifying, because of course they will with their cryptocurrency bro overlords looking for payout eventually.

                Meanwhile fedi is doing its thing, getting more resilient, easier to join, dealing with some long-term issues around moderation and so on. And will be there, better prepared than ever, for the next wave.

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                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                  Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                  https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                  #Fediverse #Mastodon

                  dgodon@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #77

                  @rysiek some of the criticisms seem legit and still pose challenges. And it got a pretty good boost from the birdsite imploding. But I’m glad to see it still going and slowly improving. So nice to have a non commercial social media space!

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                  • dgodon@mastodon.onlineD dgodon@mastodon.online

                    @rysiek some of the criticisms seem legit and still pose challenges. And it got a pretty good boost from the birdsite imploding. But I’m glad to see it still going and slowly improving. So nice to have a non commercial social media space!

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                    #78

                    @dgodon move slow and gradually improve things.

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                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                      Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                      https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                      #Fediverse #Mastodon

                      dank@jorts.horseD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #79

                      @rysiek

                      1. Terrible name

                      lol

                      "Lance Ulanoff was Chief Correspondent and Editor-at-Large of Mashable"

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                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                        Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                        https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                        #Fediverse #Mastodon

                        haunted_refrigerator@theforkiverse.comH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #80

                        @rysiek Ha ha ha ha ha ha...solid!

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                          https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                          #Fediverse #Mastodon

                          wanwizard@mastodon.scotW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #81

                          @rysiek LanceUlanoff: "This profile has been hidden by the moderators of mastodon.scot."

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                          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                            @Eeveecraft counterpoint: https://pluralistic.net/tag/scalloped-growth/

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                            #82

                            @rysiek

                            Counterpoint: that article is over three years old and was written not long after the Twitter exodus. That doesn't counter my point that the platform has plateau'd in terms of active users:

                            https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon

                            https://joinmastodon.org/servers

                            https://fediverse.observer/stats&months=96

                            Estimates range from ~750k - 1m monthly active users, and I know it's been sitting at that for a while because I occasionally check in with FediDB. Monthly active users has been coasting around 1.1m - 1.2m for over a year now. Mastodon Analytics show that the monthly active user count is currently coasting downwards when zoomed all the way out:

                            https://mastodon-analytics.com/

                            Server counts have also been decreasing.

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                              https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                              #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                              #83

                              mastodon is the level of petty I aspire to

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                              • eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE eeveecraft@dragonscave.space

                                @rysiek

                                Counterpoint: that article is over three years old and was written not long after the Twitter exodus. That doesn't counter my point that the platform has plateau'd in terms of active users:

                                https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon

                                https://joinmastodon.org/servers

                                https://fediverse.observer/stats&months=96

                                Estimates range from ~750k - 1m monthly active users, and I know it's been sitting at that for a while because I occasionally check in with FediDB. Monthly active users has been coasting around 1.1m - 1.2m for over a year now. Mastodon Analytics show that the monthly active user count is currently coasting downwards when zoomed all the way out:

                                https://mastodon-analytics.com/

                                Server counts have also been decreasing.

                                rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #84

                                @Eeveecraft the point that piece is making is: such numbers do not mean "stagnation".

                                Mastodon (the project) has overhauled it's management structure at long last and for the better, implemented a lot of functionalities people have been asking for years for (quote-toots, grouped notifications, many others).

                                Fediverse (the community) understands itself better, has done a lot of work around becoming a more friendly place for newcomers – and that work continues.

                                Fedi is anything but stagnant.

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                                • mxchara@seattle.pinkM mxchara@seattle.pink

                                  @RoyHorace @rysiek far better George Takei than William Shatner in this particular case!

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                                  #85

                                  @mxchara @RoyHorace @rysiek I for one am not glad to have the abusive Trekkie still on this platform. Shatner is an asshole but at least he's not an accused sex pest.

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    @Eeveecraft the point that piece is making is: such numbers do not mean "stagnation".

                                    Mastodon (the project) has overhauled it's management structure at long last and for the better, implemented a lot of functionalities people have been asking for years for (quote-toots, grouped notifications, many others).

                                    Fediverse (the community) understands itself better, has done a lot of work around becoming a more friendly place for newcomers – and that work continues.

                                    Fedi is anything but stagnant.

                                    eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #86

                                    @rysiek If you interpret the word, "Stagnant," like that, sure, but that's not what I mean by stagnant, and I thought that was pretty clear with the arguments and links I provided.

                                    I mean stagnant in terms of growth, and I am talking about Mastodon specifically, we're not talking about the Fediverse in general. Where did I mention the Fediverse as a whole and not Mastodon?

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                                    • dec23k@mastodon.ieD dec23k@mastodon.ie

                                      @rysiek @chrisp
                                      Unfashionable take, but I really liked G+ (in the early days, before the mandatory YouTube disaster).
                                      I got in as part of the first wave of general public users, courtesy of an invite from a friend who worked for Google.

                                      Woz was on it, and I found a lot of interesting music there (that wasn't being pushed anywhere else).

                                      It (unsurprisingly) went to shit after they added the mandatory requirement to have a G+ account to add comments on YouTube videos.

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                                      #87

                                      @dec23k It was great in the beginning. What I liked most about it was how communities formed by people sharing circles when that feature was introduced. You could share a circle if no more than 2000 people/accounts were in it. And people could choose to follow those up to 2000 people. There were a lot of circles going around with "people who regularly post on [TOPIC]". So you could follow those 300 or 800 accounts by putting them in their own circle and if you didn't like some of them, you'd remove those as they kept posting stuff you weren't interested in. I was in several such circles and I followed several of them. This shaped fan communities very fluently because everybody had a their own set of fans on a TV show, for example.

                                      I had >1000 followers because of that and it was the most active platform I've ever been a part of, while one article after another kept coming out about how nobody ever posts anything of G+. The discrepancy between my experience and the public opinion was incredible and extreme.

                                      But then they added "Communities" which were like groups on any other social platform and everybody started posting to those instead of to their personal timeline when they posted about things for which a community existed. And so everybody had to either pick one or a few communities or miss out on posts about their favourite TV show. That was the start of the end of it for me. @rysiek @chrisp

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                                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                        Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                                        https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                                        #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                                        #88

                                        @rysiek wrzuciłem na facebooka 😄 widzę, że powody do narzekania są co roku podobne.

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                                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                          Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!
                                          https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

                                          #Fediverse #Mastodon

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                                          #89

                                          @rysiek 🫡

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