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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

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  • lad_hallo@mastodon.socialL lad_hallo@mastodon.social

    @TCatInReality @Geri

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

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    #35

    @LaD_Hallo @TCatInReality look at the bias in this

    The 4th paragraph is bold text and talks about 100,000 marchers

    Yesterday's march is described as tens of 1,000s

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    • wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

      @budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?

      But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)

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      #36

      @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

        Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

        You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

        #alltogethermarch
        28 03 26

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        #37

        @Geri I did actually hear about it on BBC radio 2.

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        • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

          @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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          #38

          @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4 being there you can get an understanding of size because of how slowly it moves xx

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          • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

            @Geri why does that matter? I've been to Glasto and there's no way I could tell you how many people are in attendance at whatever stage I'm at at the time

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            #39

            @budududuroiu you get an understanding of size if you are present rather than just watching on a TV

            BTW the Daily Mirror are leading with 500 K

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            • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

              @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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              #40

              @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4 3 million is obviously implausible when the Stop the War March before Iraq was considered to be the biggest protest

              Feb 15, 2003 Stop the War (Iraq War) 1 - 2 Million
              Mar 23, 2019 Put it to the People (Brexit) 1 Million
              Oct 19, 2019 Let Us Be Heard (Brexit) 1 Million
              Nov 11, 2023 National March for Palestine 800,000
              Oct 11, 2025 National March for Palestine 600,000

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              • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4 being there you can get an understanding of size because of how slowly it moves xx

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                #41

                @Geri @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4

                I... am I the only one who can see that both the angle and distance of the perspective of these two pictures is *wildly* different? Like, to the point where comparing them seems...worthless?

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                • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                  Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                  You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                  #alltogethermarch
                  28 03 26

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                  #42

                  @Geri

                  They media is also continuing the op that if people vote for Greens they're gonna get Reform, and that "right wing movements are surging everywhere" and that "anti-immigrant sentiment is universal", all of which are refuted by literally every material measure of politics in the West right now.

                  They just can't, for the life of them, talk about "leftism" being popular, because that would violate every tenet of their ideology.

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                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                    Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                    You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                    #alltogethermarch
                    28 03 26

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                    #43

                    @Geri
                    Absolutely. I had to really search hard for coverage yesterday. And I don't think it was because I was USian. It looked like the UK MSM downplayed it, too. The Met tried hard to undecount the crowd and they directly antagonized PA so they could make arrests and justify their characterization of the organization.

                    I also think that on *both* sides of the Pond, we need a firm rally cry that is easy to remember and covers what it is we are trying to change. France had Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. We need something like that. I am not sure No Kings, No Tyrants, or Hands Off are quite right. And with the London march (fantastic!) "Together Alliance" could use a little workshopping, too.

                    People smarter than I am ought to be able to come up with something. I know the Far Right is Way Wrong, but I'm not sure how to express that where it's catchy enough. Branding seems like a small thing, but in this case, I think it could really help. How do we get the fight vs. Fascism and Greed boiled down to something simple?

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                    • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                      Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                      You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                      #alltogethermarch
                      28 03 26

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                      #44

                      @Geri
                      So the event in England isn't called No Kings?

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                      • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                        @LaD_Hallo @TCatInReality look at the bias in this

                        The 4th paragraph is bold text and talks about 100,000 marchers

                        Yesterday's march is described as tens of 1,000s

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                        #45

                        @Geri @TCatInReality Ok, moving the goalposts, I get it. The BBC has high standards in reporting and is compared to many private news outfits, relatively independent. I think we can be happy here in Europe that we still have public broadcasters.

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                        • notyourfanboy@kolektiva.socialN notyourfanboy@kolektiva.social

                          @Geri
                          So the event in England isn't called No Kings?

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                          #46

                          @notyourfanboy @Geri Ha! A bit late for that...

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                          • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                            @Geri @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4

                            I... am I the only one who can see that both the angle and distance of the perspective of these two pictures is *wildly* different? Like, to the point where comparing them seems...worthless?

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                            #47

                            @johnzajac @Geri @wizzwizz4 why? It's a suggestion of scale, not a SI unit of measurement

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                            • M mattock@mstdn.social

                              @notyourfanboy @Geri Ha! A bit late for that...

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                              #48

                              @mattock @Geri
                              Never too late start 😁

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