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  • emerson61@toot.communityE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #61

    @dannyman @zzt I wrote code to avoid hunger and homelessness mostly, before they replaced me with Indian contractors, er, I mean, AI

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    • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      @mxchara @zzt I would disagree, and am making plans and executing.

      vy@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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      #62

      @bms @mxchara @zzt what do you disagree with?

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      • vy@mastodon.socialV vy@mastodon.social

        @bms @mxchara @zzt what do you disagree with?

        mxchara@cyberpunk.lolM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #63

        @vy @bms @zzt I mean...I was kinda joking, although I feel like C++ is ill-designed (though I couldn't really defend that feeling very well)

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        • mxchara@cyberpunk.lolM mxchara@cyberpunk.lol

          @vy @bms @zzt I mean...I was kinda joking, although I feel like C++ is ill-designed (though I couldn't really defend that feeling very well)

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          #64

          @mxchara @vy @zzt I don't deny some areas remain a dumpster fire, but the incremental progress at hops C++11, C++17, C++23 and C++26 has been pretty solid. There are specific texts for dealing with assimilating the key features quickly, aimed at veterans, starting with Strostrup's "A Tour of C++".

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            when you’re a world class smart boy C expert but you fail to learn basic frontend Python so hard you get addicted to LLMs instead

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            #65

            “it’s just a tool and the future and you’re an SJW for not wanting it” torvalds screamed over the sound of rsync, a previously very stable C codebase that lots of infrastructure relies on, melting into vibed slop that can’t reliably do anything anymore

            it’s fucking wild to see another foundational project break so hard a bunch of dependencies either dumped it or stayed on an old version and go “oh me too” and implement the exact same “tool” and development processes built around that “tool” and not see the train about to hit you when your releases start to look exactly like that other project’s releases

            cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD yuvalne@433.worldY travisfw@fosstodon.orgT 4 Replies Last reply
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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              “it’s just a tool and the future and you’re an SJW for not wanting it” torvalds screamed over the sound of rsync, a previously very stable C codebase that lots of infrastructure relies on, melting into vibed slop that can’t reliably do anything anymore

              it’s fucking wild to see another foundational project break so hard a bunch of dependencies either dumped it or stayed on an old version and go “oh me too” and implement the exact same “tool” and development processes built around that “tool” and not see the train about to hit you when your releases start to look exactly like that other project’s releases

              cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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              cyberquixote@infosec.exchange
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              #66

              @zzt these mfs need the humanities or jesus. though at this point im not sure what will redeem them

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                and again I’ll point out how fucking quick this shit is happening

                torvalds posts a defense of AI slop in the kernel with a right-wing conspiracy theory as the reason

                a bunch of other open source projects just go “well the kernel says it’s ok so we’re doing slop now”

                barely a couple of weeks later the kernel is changing its release cadence and quality standards entirely and the man in charge is shrugging and literally going “what can you do”

                you can cut the crap, asshole. it’s your literal job to cut the crap.

                daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #67

                @zzt@mas.to

                Finally! I always wanted Linux but the code is plagiarized from Linux! /s

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                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                  “it’s just a tool and the future and you’re an SJW for not wanting it” torvalds screamed over the sound of rsync, a previously very stable C codebase that lots of infrastructure relies on, melting into vibed slop that can’t reliably do anything anymore

                  it’s fucking wild to see another foundational project break so hard a bunch of dependencies either dumped it or stayed on an old version and go “oh me too” and implement the exact same “tool” and development processes built around that “tool” and not see the train about to hit you when your releases start to look exactly like that other project’s releases

                  daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #68

                  @zzt@mas.to

                  rsync in particular is insane to me because like it was finished, it didn't need updates, and it wasn't getting any because it was finished, but the maintainer who had given it away to someone else because of burnout for some reason decided to take it back and has now ruined it completely with gibberish code from the robot.

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                    #69

                    @TheOneDoc @zzt I would be surprised, honestly, if he were financially in a place where he could not afford to stop working for a paycheck. Then again, people surprise me all the time.

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                    • lobster_friend@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      lobster_friend@kolektiva.social
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                      #70

                      @TheOneDoc @zzt or alternatively, wielding Linux contributor status as a union membership and challenging employers to go fork it if they don’t like it

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                      • haihappen@social.anoxinon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #71

                        @TheOneDoc @zzt i disagree. The big contributors want access to steering and influence in big picture changes. There is little reason for them to care if they allow whatever flavor of AI is their (dead) horse atm.
                        The worst that could happen to MS, G, and AMZN is if Linux were to tighten license conditions on the kernel

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                        • daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net

                          @zzt@mas.to

                          rsync in particular is insane to me because like it was finished, it didn't need updates, and it wasn't getting any because it was finished, but the maintainer who had given it away to someone else because of burnout for some reason decided to take it back and has now ruined it completely with gibberish code from the robot.

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                          #72

                          @daemonspudguy @zzt Number (of new lines of code) go up.

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                          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                            oh hey, some of you have seen this before but look at torvalds’ prior work before shoving LLMs forcefully into the workflow of the kernel:

                            https://infosec.exchange/@atax1a/115867354992858960

                            it’s a fucking Python data visualizer tool that you or I could have written in a day, but torvalds decided Python wasn’t a worthy language for him to learn so he used an LLM instead

                            and this wasn’t his first time fucking with the things, but this was his last project before he decided to go all-in

                            somehow an LLM doing a shit Python data visualization tool for one of his hobbies convinced him that LLMs must be really good at the type of low-level C the kernel is written in

                            that’s all the evidence this mid little fucker needed to assert it as fact

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                            #73

                            @zzt I remember that incident. I heard so much that I was overreacting and how this is actually a good use of LLMs and he knows never to use it in the kernel.

                            Whelp.

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                            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                              and again I’ll point out how fucking quick this shit is happening

                              torvalds posts a defense of AI slop in the kernel with a right-wing conspiracy theory as the reason

                              a bunch of other open source projects just go “well the kernel says it’s ok so we’re doing slop now”

                              barely a couple of weeks later the kernel is changing its release cadence and quality standards entirely and the man in charge is shrugging and literally going “what can you do”

                              you can cut the crap, asshole. it’s your literal job to cut the crap.

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                              #74

                              @zzt Hey, Linus, I think this qualifies as you having been hit by a bus.

                              I just hope the next guy isn't as bad. (yes, the contingency has been planned for, so I'm not so optimistic on this front---chosen successors tend to hew closely to their predecessor's worldview)

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                              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                “nothing that can be done about this” says guy who caused this and derogatorily called anyone who doesn’t like it an SJW

                                https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/08/10/linus-torvalds-says-ai-has-made-huge-linux-kernel-updates-the-new-normal/5285268

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                                ravenluni@furry.engineer
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                                #75

                                @zzt He needs a fucking slap

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                                • haihappen@social.anoxinon.deH haihappen@social.anoxinon.de

                                  @TheOneDoc @zzt i disagree. The big contributors want access to steering and influence in big picture changes. There is little reason for them to care if they allow whatever flavor of AI is their (dead) horse atm.
                                  The worst that could happen to MS, G, and AMZN is if Linux were to tighten license conditions on the kernel

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                                  #76

                                  Happy willful ignorants blind themselves day!

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                                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                    “it’s just a tool and the future and you’re an SJW for not wanting it” torvalds screamed over the sound of rsync, a previously very stable C codebase that lots of infrastructure relies on, melting into vibed slop that can’t reliably do anything anymore

                                    it’s fucking wild to see another foundational project break so hard a bunch of dependencies either dumped it or stayed on an old version and go “oh me too” and implement the exact same “tool” and development processes built around that “tool” and not see the train about to hit you when your releases start to look exactly like that other project’s releases

                                    yuvalne@433.worldY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #77

                                    @zzt i think we just get more and more proofs that LLMs are incredibly addictive, and that you should never use them even just as a test on some dump code because you'll quickly become so hooked you'd willingly become the infection vector for the rest of your projects too.

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                                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                      and again I’ll point out how fucking quick this shit is happening

                                      torvalds posts a defense of AI slop in the kernel with a right-wing conspiracy theory as the reason

                                      a bunch of other open source projects just go “well the kernel says it’s ok so we’re doing slop now”

                                      barely a couple of weeks later the kernel is changing its release cadence and quality standards entirely and the man in charge is shrugging and literally going “what can you do”

                                      you can cut the crap, asshole. it’s your literal job to cut the crap.

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                                      #78

                                      @zzt@mas.to Torvald’s needs to be replaced by somebody that not insane. Looks like I’m abandoning Linux. To one of the BSDs, been on Mac OS for decades so the differences between Unixes is less than a minor hassle. And maintained a code base back in the 90s than ran on 6 Unix platforms. All POSIX compliant mostly.

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                                      • vurpo@chitter.xyzV vurpo@chitter.xyz

                                        @zzt the man who famously described himself as woke? who kidnapped linus

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                                        #79

                                        @vurpo @zzt Claude code, presumably

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                                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                          “nothing that can be done about this” says guy who caused this and derogatorily called anyone who doesn’t like it an SJW

                                          https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/08/10/linus-torvalds-says-ai-has-made-huge-linux-kernel-updates-the-new-normal/5285268

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                                          #80

                                          @zzt same guy next year when we learn that four different state actors and three mafias have had access to all our shit for months

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