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  3. 1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class.

1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class.

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  • wim_v12e@scholar.socialW wim_v12e@scholar.social

    @lastofthem @rjblaskiewicz
    My university has gone back to invigilated pen-and-paper exams.

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    @wim_v12e @lastofthem I'm sure LLMs are a powerful force, but I'm not sure we know what they're a powerful force for yet.

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    • xgebi@hachyderm.ioX xgebi@hachyderm.io

      @flipper @rjblaskiewicz Have ever tried to decipher dysgraphic's handwriting?

      At school we were taught https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Psac%C3%AD_p%C3%ADsmo.gif

      I had to customize it to be able to read what I've written...

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      @xgebi @flipper I had a little training on the job with manuscript studies. Deciphering handwriting sucks. 🙂

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      • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

        @Legit_Spaghetti @rjblaskiewicz and we will now dissect Timmy's paper phrase by phrase to examine why he has failed.
        When I was at uni the main, and very minor, concern was occasional light plagiarism. Now it seems as if it's a whole fiction industry.

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        @capnthommo @Legit_Spaghetti

        Right. It used to be that extensive plagiarism meant doing as much work as writing the damned paper. Not anymore.

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        • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

          @technothrasher That instructor is in the wrong business.

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          @rjblaskiewicz That was my general conclusion as well. I can sympathize with the frustration of trying to deal with an incoming class of students who have all been using AI through their entire high school career now, but just giving up is not the way.

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          • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

            @forestfern There is a non-zero chance that at this time next year I will be writing here with ribbon ink-stained hands and a ferocious addiction to white-out.

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            @rjblaskiewicz @forestfern
            teletypes are essentially just typewriters attached to a computer...could one post to Mastodon from a teletype? 🤔

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            • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

              @wim_v12e @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem Haven't national mail services used handwriting recognition for decades?

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              @rjblaskiewicz @wim_v12e @drahardja @lastofthem I guess some would call it an handwriting recognition AI now, and will charge it thrice the price.

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              • traecer@techhub.socialT traecer@techhub.social

                @rjblaskiewicz @forestfern
                teletypes are essentially just typewriters attached to a computer...could one post to Mastodon from a teletype? 🤔

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                @traecer.

                I loved listening to Teletypes print at a radio station I was at back in the mid-80s. Weather reports, sports, etc. Essentially a newsfeed printed on paper. Still with issues with the ink ribbons and paper jams. One typist could blast reports out across the world.

                @rjblaskiewicz

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                • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                  @wim_v12e @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem Haven't national mail services used handwriting recognition for decades?

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                  @rjblaskiewicz @wim_v12e @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem for a very specific set of possible texts

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                  • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                    1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.

                    From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.

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                    @rjblaskiewicz My English teacher from 1984 assumed using a computer to write papers was cheating - she thought it was writing papers for me. I explained it was just a writing tool like a typewriter that made editing easier.

                    42 years later and she is correct.

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                    • rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.socialR rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social

                      1/3 of my class used AI on the most recent paper in my Critical Thinking class. This is a disaster. I caught one when it confidently made up a quote in an article I know better than anything I've ever written myself. I looked at the document history, and the whole paper appeared less than a minute after the document was created.

                      From now on, even looking at AI is cheating in my classes. No second chances. Seriously, we need to go back to typewriter labs.

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                      @rjblaskiewicz

                      Most days, I spend an hour or two writing about something I'm trying to learn, because I find it the best way to make the long-term changes in my brain that constitute learning.

                      IDK if your students know how unimportant grades are. I have never been asked for grades; at most for the degree certificate. I have never asked people I hired for grades. Maybe they will be asked for their first job when they don't have employment history. Or maybe to continue in academia.

                      But having those skills matter. Most jobs have a probationary period and they won't keep the job if they don't have the skills.

                      It seems AI™ usage is going to force major changes in our education systems. I hope we apply some critical thinking to the purposes of education from the points of view first of students, then of wider society, then of employers.

                      @blogdiva

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                      • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                        @rjblaskiewicz @wim_v12e @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem for a very specific set of possible texts

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                        @oblomov @wim_v12e @PH7831 @drahardja @lastofthem I guess it knows where the zip code is and the street address and that's a big hint.

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