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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

    That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

    Mozilla is cooked.

    https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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    #35

    @jwz
    They are not spending 1.4 billion on AI. This would be silly to spend all their money. But they will spend 20% of their annual budget on AI, roughly $120M. Still a lot of money.

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    • cdamian@rls.socialC cdamian@rls.social

      @jwz
      Meanwhile the AI companies are burning the planet to build browsers from scratch as a benchmark.
      https://cursor.com/blog/scaling-agents

      This is how we all lose.

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      #36

      @cdamian @jwz
      jayzuz fucking nightmare.

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      • poujolrost@mstdn.jpP poujolrost@mstdn.jp

        @jwz

        WTF that ammount is insane.

        And their goal is nonsense.

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        #37

        @poujolrost
        That's because it's not the real amount. This headline is wrong.
        @jwz

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        • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

          @abbe98 @jwz
          Why don't they just spend the $130 million on hookers and blow, instead? They'd at least have a good time, without fucking up the browser for users.

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          #38

          @brouhaha @abbe98 @jwz or without fucking up the planet *for everyone*.

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          • csstrowbridge@mastodon.socialC csstrowbridge@mastodon.social

            @jwz

            So... I assume people have already researched alternative browsers.

            Any recommendations.

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            #39

            @csstrowbridge @jwz second vivaldi - &, yeah, i know it's built with chrome infrastructure, but they've sworn an anti-AI oath.

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

              That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

              Mozilla is cooked.

              https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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              #40

              @jwz

              Thanks for reminding me to cancel my recurring Mozilla donation.

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              • slightlyoff@toot.cafeS slightlyoff@toot.cafe

                @jwz I honestly thought you might have been exaggerating, but then I clicked through to the article...and jesus effing christ, the whole board need to be launched into the sun.

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                #41

                @slightlyoff @jwz When Mozilla crashes along with the AI bubble, maybe the developers worth saving can be rehomed under Servo, as I believe that is organized under the Linux Foundation and funded by the EU Sovereign fund, so there is some structure which could be expanded to cover the need, if primary maintainer ship for Firefox needed to move to a new stable org.

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                • raven667@hachyderm.ioR raven667@hachyderm.io

                  @slightlyoff @jwz When Mozilla crashes along with the AI bubble, maybe the developers worth saving can be rehomed under Servo, as I believe that is organized under the Linux Foundation and funded by the EU Sovereign fund, so there is some structure which could be expanded to cover the need, if primary maintainer ship for Firefox needed to move to a new stable org.

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                  #42

                  This is like when Sun was failing and people threw as much code as they could over the wall so they could catch it and build around it afterwards, spawning LibreOffice and several ZFS-based storage companies.

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                    That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                    Mozilla is cooked.

                    https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                    #43

                    @jwz Their money comes from Google. They do what Alphabet tell them to do. This is the elephant in the room with Mozilla.

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                    • earwigplanet@mastodon.socialE earwigplanet@mastodon.social

                      @jwz What is with their Goatse logo?

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                      #44

                      @earwigplanet @jwz Reach inside a gaping asshole and you find... Firefox.

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                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                        Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                        That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                        Mozilla is cooked.

                        https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                        #45

                        @jwz I can't believe you missed the goatse tag

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                          That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                          Mozilla is cooked.

                          https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                          #46

                          @jwz
                          I would have been shocked if it went any other way at this point.

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                            That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                            Mozilla is cooked.

                            https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                            #47

                            @jwz @mozilla #WTF are you doing? No one wants you to do AI. DO something useful!

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                              That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                              Mozilla is cooked.

                              https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                              #48

                              @jwz amazing

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                                That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                                Mozilla is cooked.

                                https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                                #49

                                @jwz Mozilla should just donate money to Servo and Ladybird.

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                                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                  Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                                  That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                                  Mozilla is cooked.

                                  https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                                  #50

                                  @jwz Maybe I will sound like Cato " Carthago delenda est" to say it over and over again, but for now Mozilla has last independent browser engine. I know about Google donations for it, but still until new engine is not ready we have only Mozilla with all Headquarter stupidity.

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                                    That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                                    Mozilla is cooked.

                                    https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                                    #51

                                    @jwz That's it, I'm backing up my bookmarks and changing browsers, I'm not even anti-AI, but this is just ridiculous, nobody is asking for this.

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                                    • czauner@social.vivaldi.netC czauner@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @csstrowbridge

                                      Vivaldi is neat. And the promised not to put any AI in their Browser.

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                                      #52
                                      @czauner @csstrowbridge The problem with that being that they need to release & relicense their source code before allocating any amount of trust to them is even remotely on the table.
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                                      • cdamian@rls.socialC cdamian@rls.social

                                        @jwz
                                        Meanwhile the AI companies are burning the planet to build browsers from scratch as a benchmark.
                                        https://cursor.com/blog/scaling-agents

                                        This is how we all lose.

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                                        #53

                                        @cdamian @jwz *to reskin Servo, it turns out

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                                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                          Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.

                                          That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.

                                          Mozilla is cooked.

                                          https://jwz.org/b/yk2n

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                                          #54

                                          @jwz Well, the good thing is I had a great reason to stop donating to Mozilla.

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