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crime is a spook

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  • K kazan@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Of course, morality itself is a social construct, no? Even the foundation itself is shaky.

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    notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip
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    Morality is not a social construct, it’s part and parcel of the social contract.

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    • C contriteerudite@lemmy.world

      The biggest fault of Game theory is that it is biased towards instant utility and short-term rewards. It does not model for scenarios where reduced short-term rewards can lead to greater gains in the long-term.

      In short, decisions made for singular benefit typically have worse long-term results than decisions accounting for collective benefit.

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      Game theory does model for that. For example an iterated prisoner’s dilemma.

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      • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

        The news media is pushing the narrative that it was a fake school. Fake art supplies etc. Its REALLY fucking evil. Of course everyone will believe that now.

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        monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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        Who cares about the school. Were the children also fake?

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        • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

          The news media is pushing the narrative that it was a fake school. Fake art supplies etc. Its REALLY fucking evil. Of course everyone will believe that now.

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          nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          what is this in reference to?

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          • N nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            what is this in reference to?

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            zenzanzoo@lemmy.world
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            #14

            US tomahawking 200 kids at girl school in Iran recently.

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            • zenzanzoo@lemmy.worldZ zenzanzoo@lemmy.world

              US tomahawking 200 kids at girl school in Iran recently.

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              bluegrass_addict@lemmy.ca
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              #15

              didn’t they also double tap to kill the responders and survivors

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              • C cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                Similarly, a politician can abuse kids with impunity, but you can go to prison for seeing pictures of him doing it (or of others doing the same).

                I’m not saying that possession of CSAM shouldn’t be illegal, but if we’re not prosecuting the crimes they depict, then is what they depict the crime or is it the knowledge it’s happening and who’s doing it?

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                redsand@infosec.pub
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                You just need to familiarize yourself with the concept of blackwhite. Do you know much newspeak?

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                • nostradavid@programming.devN nostradavid@programming.dev

                  That’s the point of government: the state has a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force.

                  That’s from “Politics as a Vocation” by Max Weber. It’s also why the population needs to beat back if that violence isn’t legitimate (i.e. it’s abusing the population in the first place).

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                  #17

                  Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

                  If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

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                  • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                    Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

                    If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

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                    heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                    #18

                    Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

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                    • B bluegrass_addict@lemmy.ca

                      didn’t they also double tap to kill the responders and survivors

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                      heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                      #19

                      I just assume the evil sumbitches are doing that on all the bombings now

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                      • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

                        Who cares about the school. Were the children also fake?

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                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                        #20

                        Oh, children don’t look like children on camera you have to paint capybaras.

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                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                          Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

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                          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          you’re making that up

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                          • D defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            It’s easy to get away with crime, though.

                            Step 1: have parents who are billionaires

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                            Step two, pick victims who are socially disadvantaged

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                            • C contriteerudite@lemmy.world

                              The biggest fault of Game theory is that it is biased towards instant utility and short-term rewards. It does not model for scenarios where reduced short-term rewards can lead to greater gains in the long-term.

                              In short, decisions made for singular benefit typically have worse long-term results than decisions accounting for collective benefit.

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                              heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                              That’s a failure of that specific model. It just needs more creative mathematicians/theorists

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                                alpha71@lemmy.world
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                                Criminal law is basically self interest fully encoded. “Well I don’t want bad things to happen to me, so lets codify them all and make it illegal to do any of them.”

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                                • N notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip

                                  Morality is not a social construct, it’s part and parcel of the social contract.

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                                  slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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                                  And the social contract is some divine thing, or what?

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                                  • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                                    Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

                                    If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

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                                    village604@adultswim.fan
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                                    Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

                                    Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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                                    • V village604@adultswim.fan

                                      Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

                                      Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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                                      commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      and innocent people die at the hands of police. i’m willing to take my chances with my neighbors.

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                                        commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        if you’re going to just make things up, you should start off by letting everyone know so tehy don’t waste their time on your storytelling.

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                                        • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          you’re making that up

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