Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Flippanarchy
  3. crime is a spook

crime is a spook

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Flippanarchy
92 Indlæg 28 Posters 0 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • 8 8oow3291d@feddit.dk

    Depends? Morality like “don’t steal” is partially a consequence of game theory. Game theory is math.

    Is math a social construct - obviously not completely.

    C This user is from outside of this forum
    C This user is from outside of this forum
    contriteerudite@lemmy.world
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #8

    The biggest fault of Game theory is that it is biased towards instant utility and short-term rewards. It does not model for scenarios where reduced short-term rewards can lead to greater gains in the long-term.

    In short, decisions made for singular benefit typically have worse long-term results than decisions accounting for collective benefit.

    explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au
      This post did not contain any content.
      nostradavid@programming.devN This user is from outside of this forum
      nostradavid@programming.devN This user is from outside of this forum
      nostradavid@programming.dev
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #9

      That’s the point of government: the state has a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force.

      That’s from “Politics as a Vocation” by Max Weber. It’s also why the population needs to beat back if that violence isn’t legitimate (i.e. it’s abusing the population in the first place).

      deceptichum@quokk.auD F 2 Replies Last reply
      0
      • K kazan@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Of course, morality itself is a social construct, no? Even the foundation itself is shaky.

        N This user is from outside of this forum
        N This user is from outside of this forum
        notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #10

        Morality is not a social construct, it’s part and parcel of the social contract.

        S 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • C contriteerudite@lemmy.world

          The biggest fault of Game theory is that it is biased towards instant utility and short-term rewards. It does not model for scenarios where reduced short-term rewards can lead to greater gains in the long-term.

          In short, decisions made for singular benefit typically have worse long-term results than decisions accounting for collective benefit.

          explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE This user is from outside of this forum
          explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE This user is from outside of this forum
          explodicle@sh.itjust.works
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #11

          Game theory does model for that. For example an iterated prisoner’s dilemma.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

            The news media is pushing the narrative that it was a fake school. Fake art supplies etc. Its REALLY fucking evil. Of course everyone will believe that now.

            M This user is from outside of this forum
            M This user is from outside of this forum
            monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #12

            Who cares about the school. Were the children also fake?

            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

              The news media is pushing the narrative that it was a fake school. Fake art supplies etc. Its REALLY fucking evil. Of course everyone will believe that now.

              N This user is from outside of this forum
              N This user is from outside of this forum
              nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #13

              what is this in reference to?

              zenzanzoo@lemmy.worldZ 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • N nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                what is this in reference to?

                zenzanzoo@lemmy.worldZ This user is from outside of this forum
                zenzanzoo@lemmy.worldZ This user is from outside of this forum
                zenzanzoo@lemmy.world
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #14

                US tomahawking 200 kids at girl school in Iran recently.

                B 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • zenzanzoo@lemmy.worldZ zenzanzoo@lemmy.world

                  US tomahawking 200 kids at girl school in Iran recently.

                  B This user is from outside of this forum
                  B This user is from outside of this forum
                  bluegrass_addict@lemmy.ca
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #15

                  didn’t they also double tap to kill the responders and survivors

                  heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • C cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    Similarly, a politician can abuse kids with impunity, but you can go to prison for seeing pictures of him doing it (or of others doing the same).

                    I’m not saying that possession of CSAM shouldn’t be illegal, but if we’re not prosecuting the crimes they depict, then is what they depict the crime or is it the knowledge it’s happening and who’s doing it?

                    R This user is from outside of this forum
                    R This user is from outside of this forum
                    redsand@infosec.pub
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #16

                    You just need to familiarize yourself with the concept of blackwhite. Do you know much newspeak?

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • nostradavid@programming.devN nostradavid@programming.dev

                      That’s the point of government: the state has a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force.

                      That’s from “Politics as a Vocation” by Max Weber. It’s also why the population needs to beat back if that violence isn’t legitimate (i.e. it’s abusing the population in the first place).

                      deceptichum@quokk.auD This user is from outside of this forum
                      deceptichum@quokk.auD This user is from outside of this forum
                      deceptichum@quokk.au
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #17

                      Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

                      If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

                      heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH V 2 Replies Last reply
                      0
                      • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                        Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

                        If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #18

                        Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

                        C deceptichum@quokk.auD aeonfelis@lemmy.worldA 3 Replies Last reply
                        0
                        • B bluegrass_addict@lemmy.ca

                          didn’t they also double tap to kill the responders and survivors

                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #19

                          I just assume the evil sumbitches are doing that on all the bombings now

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

                            Who cares about the school. Were the children also fake?

                            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #20

                            Oh, children don’t look like children on camera you have to paint capybaras.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                              Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

                              C This user is from outside of this forum
                              C This user is from outside of this forum
                              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #21

                              you’re making that up

                              heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • D defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                It’s easy to get away with crime, though.

                                Step 1: have parents who are billionaires

                                heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                                heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                                heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #22

                                Step two, pick victims who are socially disadvantaged

                                D 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • C contriteerudite@lemmy.world

                                  The biggest fault of Game theory is that it is biased towards instant utility and short-term rewards. It does not model for scenarios where reduced short-term rewards can lead to greater gains in the long-term.

                                  In short, decisions made for singular benefit typically have worse long-term results than decisions accounting for collective benefit.

                                  heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #23

                                  That’s a failure of that specific model. It just needs more creative mathematicians/theorists

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au
                                    This post did not contain any content.
                                    A This user is from outside of this forum
                                    A This user is from outside of this forum
                                    alpha71@lemmy.world
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #24

                                    Criminal law is basically self interest fully encoded. “Well I don’t want bad things to happen to me, so lets codify them all and make it illegal to do any of them.”

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • N notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip

                                      Morality is not a social construct, it’s part and parcel of the social contract.

                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      slurpingpus@lemmy.world
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #25

                                      And the social contract is some divine thing, or what?

                                      N 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                                        Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

                                        If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

                                        V This user is from outside of this forum
                                        V This user is from outside of this forum
                                        village604@adultswim.fan
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #26

                                        Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

                                        Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

                                        C deceptichum@quokk.auD 2 Replies Last reply
                                        0
                                        • V village604@adultswim.fan

                                          Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

                                          Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

                                          C This user is from outside of this forum
                                          C This user is from outside of this forum
                                          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #27

                                          and innocent people die at the hands of police. i’m willing to take my chances with my neighbors.

                                          V 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Svar
                                          • Svar som emne
                                          Login for at svare
                                          • Ældste til nyeste
                                          • Nyeste til ældste
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Log ind

                                          • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Hjem
                                          • Seneste
                                          • Etiketter
                                          • Populære
                                          • Verden
                                          • Bruger
                                          • Grupper