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  • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

    Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

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    #33

    And other shit liberals tell themselves to never attempt change.

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    • V village604@adultswim.fan

      Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

      Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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      #34

      Community defences is a suitable replacement.

      I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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      • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        your gif broke. but i foundi t, and it’s just an appeal to ridicule, not evidence for your claim.

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        #35

        i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.

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        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

          i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.

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          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #36

          straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.

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          • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.

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            #37

            sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

              sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #38

              I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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              • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                #39

                you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

                wrong, but you just did.

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                • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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                  #40

                  ooo, i get this every time i call out medical practitioners for committing crimes. within hours. which one was it you personally committed?

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                  • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                    Community defences is a suitable replacement.

                    I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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                    village604@adultswim.fan
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                    #41

                    I’m not disagreeing with any argument against the current system, I’m just saying that putting the power in the hands of the people isn’t a suitable replacement.

                    Professional, highly educated and properly trained law enforcement with robust civilian oversight is the solution.

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                    • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

                      wrong, but you just did.

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                      #42

                      let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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                      • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                        And other shit liberals tell themselves to never attempt change.

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                        #43

                        call me when you’ve built a single homeless shelter. just one. then you can lecture me on anything.

                        you just sit behind your keyboard. Some of us (not you) actually live it.

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                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                          let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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                          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          #44

                          another appeal to ridicule, but no evidence that money or government are inevitabilities.

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                          • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                            ooo, i get this every time i call out medical practitioners for committing crimes. within hours. which one was it you personally committed?

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                            commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            #45

                            great. ad hominem with a red herring. still no evidence for your claim that government and money will pervade every society.

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                            • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                              i don’t see how. do you have a crystal ball?

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                              village604@adultswim.fan
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                              #46

                              No crystal ball, but history repeats itself. That shit isn’t even in the distant past.

                              Do you honestly think that groups of people with no experience in criminal investigations will get it right more often than people who dedicated their lives to it?

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                              • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                if you’re going to just make things up, you should start off by letting everyone know so tehy don’t waste their time on your storytelling.

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                                village604@adultswim.fan
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                                #47

                                What exactly am I making up?

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                                  #48

                                  i explicitly said i don’t want a debate.

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                                  • V village604@adultswim.fan

                                    What exactly am I making up?

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                                    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    #49

                                    every line of that comment.

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                                    • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      i explicitly said i don’t want a debate.

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                                      #50

                                      yet you keep demanding i provide logic and evidence. what is that but demanding a debate? do you really think everyone here is that stupid?

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                                      • V village604@adultswim.fan

                                        No crystal ball, but history repeats itself. That shit isn’t even in the distant past.

                                        Do you honestly think that groups of people with no experience in criminal investigations will get it right more often than people who dedicated their lives to it?

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                                        commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        #51

                                        i think that the systems that govern us are unjust in a myriad of ways. i’m willing to tolerate some level of injustice in dealing with antisocial behavior, since i get that already, if it means we can throw off all the rest of the oppression we face from being governed.

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                                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                          yet you keep demanding i provide logic and evidence. what is that but demanding a debate? do you really think everyone here is that stupid?

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                                          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          #52

                                          i am not demanding anything. i’m pointing out that you literally made up your claim, and rather than even try to support it, you play rhetorical games.

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