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  • N notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip

    Morality is not a social construct, it’s part and parcel of the social contract.

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    slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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    And the social contract is some divine thing, or what?

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    • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

      Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

      If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

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      village604@adultswim.fan
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      #26

      Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

      Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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      • V village604@adultswim.fan

        Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

        Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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        commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        and innocent people die at the hands of police. i’m willing to take my chances with my neighbors.

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          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          if you’re going to just make things up, you should start off by letting everyone know so tehy don’t waste their time on your storytelling.

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          • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            you’re making that up

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            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

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              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              #30

              your gif broke. but i foundi t, and it’s just an appeal to ridicule, not evidence for your claim.

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              • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                and innocent people die at the hands of police. i’m willing to take my chances with my neighbors.

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                village604@adultswim.fan
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                I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                It used to be commonplace for innocent black people to be hung because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and a bunch of pissed off white people wanted to kill someone.

                The state making that a crime and enforcing it is what stopped it from being commonplace.

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                • V village604@adultswim.fan

                  I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                  It used to be commonplace for innocent black people to be hung because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and a bunch of pissed off white people wanted to kill someone.

                  The state making that a crime and enforcing it is what stopped it from being commonplace.

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                  commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  #32

                  I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                  i don’t see how. do you have a crystal ball?

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                  • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                    Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

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                    deceptichum@quokk.au
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                    And other shit liberals tell themselves to never attempt change.

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                    • V village604@adultswim.fan

                      Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

                      Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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                      deceptichum@quokk.au
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                      #34

                      Community defences is a suitable replacement.

                      I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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                      • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        your gif broke. but i foundi t, and it’s just an appeal to ridicule, not evidence for your claim.

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                        heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                        #35

                        i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.

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                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                          i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.

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                          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.

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                          • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.

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                            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                            sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                              sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              #38

                              I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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                              • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                                commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

                                wrong, but you just did.

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                                • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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                                  heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                  ooo, i get this every time i call out medical practitioners for committing crimes. within hours. which one was it you personally committed?

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                                  • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                                    Community defences is a suitable replacement.

                                    I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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                                    village604@adultswim.fan
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                                    I’m not disagreeing with any argument against the current system, I’m just saying that putting the power in the hands of the people isn’t a suitable replacement.

                                    Professional, highly educated and properly trained law enforcement with robust civilian oversight is the solution.

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                                    • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

                                      wrong, but you just did.

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                                      heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                      let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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                                      • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                                        And other shit liberals tell themselves to never attempt change.

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                                        #43

                                        call me when you’ve built a single homeless shelter. just one. then you can lecture me on anything.

                                        you just sit behind your keyboard. Some of us (not you) actually live it.

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                                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                          let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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                                          commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          another appeal to ridicule, but no evidence that money or government are inevitabilities.

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