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crime is a spook

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  • C contriteerudite@lemmy.world

    The biggest fault of Game theory is that it is biased towards instant utility and short-term rewards. It does not model for scenarios where reduced short-term rewards can lead to greater gains in the long-term.

    In short, decisions made for singular benefit typically have worse long-term results than decisions accounting for collective benefit.

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    That’s a failure of that specific model. It just needs more creative mathematicians/theorists

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    • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au
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      alpha71@lemmy.world
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      Criminal law is basically self interest fully encoded. “Well I don’t want bad things to happen to me, so lets codify them all and make it illegal to do any of them.”

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      • N notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip

        Morality is not a social construct, it’s part and parcel of the social contract.

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        slurpingpus@lemmy.world
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        And the social contract is some divine thing, or what?

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        • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

          Or dissolve the government and realise offloading societal obligations to use violence to a hierarchical organisation is not the solution.

          If there must be violence, let it come from the people for the people.

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          village604@adultswim.fan
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          Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

          Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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          • V village604@adultswim.fan

            Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

            Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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            commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            and innocent people die at the hands of police. i’m willing to take my chances with my neighbors.

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              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              if you’re going to just make things up, you should start off by letting everyone know so tehy don’t waste their time on your storytelling.

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              • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                you’re making that up

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                  commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  your gif broke. but i foundi t, and it’s just an appeal to ridicule, not evidence for your claim.

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                  • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                    and innocent people die at the hands of police. i’m willing to take my chances with my neighbors.

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                    village604@adultswim.fan
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                    #31

                    I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                    It used to be commonplace for innocent black people to be hung because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and a bunch of pissed off white people wanted to kill someone.

                    The state making that a crime and enforcing it is what stopped it from being commonplace.

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                    • V village604@adultswim.fan

                      I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                      It used to be commonplace for innocent black people to be hung because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and a bunch of pissed off white people wanted to kill someone.

                      The state making that a crime and enforcing it is what stopped it from being commonplace.

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                      commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      I can guarantee you that mob justice would be worse.

                      i don’t see how. do you have a crystal ball?

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                      • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                        Government is like money. Get rid of it and people will create it again to fill the function they need it to fill, so let’s have it do what we need and help instead of harm

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                        deceptichum@quokk.au
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                        And other shit liberals tell themselves to never attempt change.

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                        • V village604@adultswim.fan

                          Vigilantism is not a suitable replacement. The general population is shit at properly investigating things.

                          Just look at how Reddit responded to who they incorrectly thought was the Boston Marathon bomber. A lot of innocent people will die to mob justice.

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                          Community defences is a suitable replacement.

                          I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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                          • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            your gif broke. but i foundi t, and it’s just an appeal to ridicule, not evidence for your claim.

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                            i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.

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                            • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                              i thought you were making a joke (one i liked, too) that i said people create things. no worries, it’s hard to communicate tone over text.

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                              commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.

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                              • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                straight up mott and bailey. retreat from your specific, unjustified claim to one very broad and easy to defend.

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                                sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                                • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                  sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                                  commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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                                  • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                    sorry, but you’re committing the fallacy fallacy and i don’t debate people who do that bullshit

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                                    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    #39

                                    you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

                                    wrong, but you just did.

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                                    • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      I don’t want debate. I want you to stop making things up and spreading them as fact.

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                                      ooo, i get this every time i call out medical practitioners for committing crimes. within hours. which one was it you personally committed?

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                                      • deceptichum@quokk.auD deceptichum@quokk.au

                                        Community defences is a suitable replacement.

                                        I can point to millions of examples of cops and courts getting it wrong and innocent people suffering and dying, yet that’s not an argument against the system for you so why should it be against community management?

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                                        village604@adultswim.fan
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                                        I’m not disagreeing with any argument against the current system, I’m just saying that putting the power in the hands of the people isn’t a suitable replacement.

                                        Professional, highly educated and properly trained law enforcement with robust civilian oversight is the solution.

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                                        • C commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          you’re committing the fallacy fallacy

                                          wrong, but you just did.

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                                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                          #42

                                          let us spout the names of fallacies instead of talking, that is productive. that’s you.

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