Japan declared that teaching children about hell or using fear-based religious lessons is officially classified as a form of psychological abuse against minors... BECAUSE IT FUCKING IS!

[thisislieven@c.im]

@weekendspy There are zero virtues from religion that can't exist without it but there are many harms exclusive to it.

It's absolutely insane how we allow people to exercise their right to freedom of religion in a way which takes that same exact right away from others.

[delawen@floss.social]

@theorangetheme @janvenetor @Netzblockierer @weekendspy

Where do I say religious people are bad people?

I just mentioned the fact that religion is not a human need.

Don't put words on my keyboard I haven't typed.

[delawen@floss.social]

@janvenetor @Netzblockierer @weekendspy even in your metaphor: it is a "like", not a need.

A convenience.

A hobby.

A guidance.

A consolation.

Not a human need.

[mabande@mastodon.social]

@aletzi @manes @weekendspy basically the same: "Inciting fear by telling children they will go to hell if they don’t participate in religious activities, or preventing them from making decisions about their career path, is regarded as psychological abuse and neglect in the guidelines."

[argonaut@bonn.social]

@aletzi @manes @weekendspy it sounds like the claim, however, only plans for it. Still, remarkable.

[boud@framapiaf.org]

@argonaut @weekendspy

Seems like an update, ideally per [[WP:RS]], is needed: "In December 2022, Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare **considered drafting** new guidelines ..." [1] (**emphasis** added)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%ABky%C5%8D_nisei#Government_responses

[[WP:RS]] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RS

[janvenetor@mastodontti.fi]

@delawen @Netzblockierer @weekendspy that's my motto: people have to have hobbies.

People crave deeply to believe objectively untrue things. A purpose, a meaning. Being part of a plan and a greater whole. An agent of compassion and mercy and salvation. A validating peer group and a party.

It's a rich part of human experience and not usually harmful.

For me it's only a problem when children's fingers bleed. Or when they push up these fraudulent dipshits like Hegseth.

(Decriminalize drugs too)

[lionelbouton@ruby.social]

@weekendspy
As this was not known to me I started digging for sources.

For more context and reference, see : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%ABky%C5%8D_nisei
(Government's response)

The English article referenced by the Wikipedia page :
https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/politics-government/20221227-79777/

[dasgrueneblatt@wien.rocks]

@lionelbouton Thank you!@weekendspy

[jaxvent@lgbtqia.space]

@janvenetor @Netzblockierer @weekendspy

I think there is a need for comfort and guidance that we have as kids, and those that are raised in religious households/communities grow up believing their religion is the source for that. Even those that find religion in later life, I believe, are looking for comfort and guidance that they have not found elsewhere in life.

So I disagree that religion is what people have a deep need for. They just find what they need there. And that perpetuates the myth.

[catch56@kolektiva.social]

@janvenetor @delawen @Netzblockierer @weekendspy I think a lot of atheists have some kind of humanist/moral framework and world view that is not religious but meets some of the same needs (however defined) that religion does for other people.

Then you have the official atheists/anti-theists like Richard Dawkins who either end up reinventing religion or otherwise go down the pan like with Dawkins' super-intelligent conscious robot girlfriend.