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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
    alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

    Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

    I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

    #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

    roknrol@beige.partyR winst0nsmith@mastodon.socialW matty@blahaj.zoneM angelicaura@transfem.socialA pndc@social.treehouse.systemsP 20 Replies Last reply
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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

      Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

      I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

      #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

      roknrol@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
      roknrol@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
      roknrol@beige.party
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @alice@lgbtqia.space Seems that people that don't understand consent still don't understand "no".

      @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

        Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

        I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

        #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

        winst0nsmith@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
        winst0nsmith@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
        winst0nsmith@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @alice damn...this clown isn't getting the message. his type of top-down tech-bro move-fast 'innovator' just isn't appreciated in fedi. the hashtag bots literally reek of the same non-consensual ip theft that birthed the AI's.

        get out loser!

        alex@pawb.funA finchhaven@sfba.socialF 2 Replies Last reply
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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

          Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

          I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

          #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

          matty@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
          matty@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
          matty@blahaj.zone
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @alice@lgbtqia.space I think you aleardy know but someone did request for it to be Opt-In on the Git Repo which unfortunately, Evan isn't taking it on board and still pulling the "Yeah... BUT, their post is public and they could.. blah-blah-blah"

          bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB seedsignal@mastodon.socialS 2 Replies Last reply
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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

            Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

            I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

            #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

            angelicaura@transfem.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
            angelicaura@transfem.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
            angelicaura@transfem.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @alice@lgbtqia.space @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @AltAfterDark@masto.thefword.club @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social

            fwiw, the tags you've shown 404 for me, while some others show up. So it seems he did delete them after all?

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            • winst0nsmith@mastodon.socialW winst0nsmith@mastodon.social

              @alice damn...this clown isn't getting the message. his type of top-down tech-bro move-fast 'innovator' just isn't appreciated in fedi. the hashtag bots literally reek of the same non-consensual ip theft that birthed the AI's.

              get out loser!

              alex@pawb.funA This user is from outside of this forum
              alex@pawb.funA This user is from outside of this forum
              alex@pawb.fun
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @winst0nsmith @alice

              He's one of the authors of the ActivityPub protocol, not some naive newcomer to Fedi - if anything, he's been around long enough (we're talking decades) that he should know better.

              (Incidentally, he also should know better than to misuse hashtags, but that's a whole other thing.)

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              • winst0nsmith@mastodon.socialW winst0nsmith@mastodon.social

                @alice damn...this clown isn't getting the message. his type of top-down tech-bro move-fast 'innovator' just isn't appreciated in fedi. the hashtag bots literally reek of the same non-consensual ip theft that birthed the AI's.

                get out loser!

                finchhaven@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                finchhaven@sfba.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                finchhaven@sfba.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @winst0nsmith

                AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it

                Going back:

                "Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."

                Oh really. "the only person to use"?

                Who enforces that?

                His replies today:

                "No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "

                And this is interesting:

                "Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
                my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?

                Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"

                Yeah

                Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself

                He really is too, too full of himself

                Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50

                cc @alice

                cantzler@techhub.socialC bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB 2 Replies Last reply
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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                  Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                  I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                  #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                  pndc@social.treehouse.systemsP This user is from outside of this forum
                  pndc@social.treehouse.systemsP This user is from outside of this forum
                  pndc@social.treehouse.systems
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @alice You could make a copyright claim, but note that in the first instance OVH is likely to just doxx you by sending your complaint direct to the abuser, so perhaps give your lawyer's postal address instead of your home address. The legal process for copyright claim against a Canadian host differs from the USA's DMCA but I doubt OVH are bright enough to tell the difference.

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                    Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                    I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                    #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                    nuclearoatmeal@beige.partyN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nuclearoatmeal@beige.partyN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nuclearoatmeal@beige.party
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social

                    This is bullshit. I'm blocking that server.

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                      Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                      I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                      #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                      joscelyntransient@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      joscelyntransient@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      joscelyntransient@chaosfem.tw
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @alice hmm…how does one federate a slap across the face through ActivityPub? Can I send a glitter bomb through the fediverse? Can my instance throw a milkshake at Evan to tell him what I think about this behavior?

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                        Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                        I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                        #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                        accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                        accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                        accordingtowouter@mastodon.world
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        @alice@lgbtqia.space @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social What is it about the word ‘no’ that he doesn’t understand? And ‘stop’.

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                          Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                          I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                          #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                          zoe@shorky.gayZ This user is from outside of this forum
                          zoe@shorky.gayZ This user is from outside of this forum
                          zoe@shorky.gay
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general

                          grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                            Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                            I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                            #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                            rupert@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
                            rupert@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
                            rupert@mastodon.nz
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social
                            You blocked him, but he's still replying to you trying to explain why he's the good guy and completely ignoring the fact that if you block him he shouldn't be able to reply.

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                            • angelicaura@transfem.socialA angelicaura@transfem.social

                              @alice@lgbtqia.space @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @AltAfterDark@masto.thefword.club @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social

                              fwiw, the tags you've shown 404 for me, while some others show up. So it seems he did delete them after all?

                              alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                              alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                              alice@lgbtqia.space
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14

                              @AngelicAura that would be lovely.

                              I wonder how many other Fedifolx would like their stuff removed? My guess is a lot.

                              He could've headed this off by asking first.

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                              • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

                                @winst0nsmith

                                AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it

                                Going back:

                                "Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."

                                Oh really. "the only person to use"?

                                Who enforces that?

                                His replies today:

                                "No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "

                                And this is interesting:

                                "Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
                                my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?

                                Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"

                                Yeah

                                Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself

                                He really is too, too full of himself

                                Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50

                                cc @alice

                                cantzler@techhub.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                cantzler@techhub.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                cantzler@techhub.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @FinchHaven @winst0nsmith @alice oh goodness this is really dumb. Sorry I did that wrong.

                                #this #is #really #dumb
                                #these #hashtags #are #mine
                                #i #own #them #now

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  alice@lgbtqia.space
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @NathanMurdock being forced into "followers-only" posting by someone else's lack of boundaries is a shitty user experience, and likely to be the eventual death of queer and BIPoC Fedi if we let it slide.

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                                  • zoe@shorky.gayZ zoe@shorky.gay

                                    @alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general

                                    grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @zoe @alice you have no fucking clue. I spend a not insignificant amount of time explaining user behavior and it's just like "... but how can we get AROUND that?"

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      alice@lgbtqia.space
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @NathanMurdock sigh. Why do we still court these toxic mega-corps? They're abusive relationships, and will always tend towards the enshittification of user experience in search of more profitability.

                                      It's like setting up Flock cameras in your hippie commune.

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                                      • alex@pawb.funA alex@pawb.fun

                                        @winst0nsmith @alice

                                        He's one of the authors of the ActivityPub protocol, not some naive newcomer to Fedi - if anything, he's been around long enough (we're talking decades) that he should know better.

                                        (Incidentally, he also should know better than to misuse hashtags, but that's a whole other thing.)

                                        doug@union.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        doug@union.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @alex all the more unfathomable that he created such a service with no (documented) attempt at making sure the service is safe.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                                          Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                                          I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                                          #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                                          toothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          toothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          toothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nl
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @alice @evan I feel like I'm not completely understanding the issue here. These bots boost all posts tagged with a certain hashtag, right? One bot per hashtag. And that's all they do, right?

                                          I assume the point of them is to make it so instances that the original post maybe isn't federating with, now also receive the post, right? But if that's the case, what's the issue? Are there instances you don't want to be able to see your post?

                                          The point of a hashtag is to get more people to see your post, right? I ask this out of genuine curiosity, I hope I don't come across as "just asking questions" while downplaying your concern. That is not my intention.

                                          alice@lgbtqia.spaceA zanagb@lgbtqia.spaceZ 2 Replies Last reply
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