Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay.
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@alice damn...this clown isn't getting the message. his type of top-down tech-bro move-fast 'innovator' just isn't appreciated in fedi. the hashtag bots literally reek of the same non-consensual ip theft that birthed the AI's.
get out loser!
AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it
Going back:
"Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."
Oh really. "the only person to use"?
Who enforces that?
His replies today:
"No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "
And this is interesting:
"Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"
Yeah
Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself
He really is too, too full of himself
Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50
cc @alice
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice You could make a copyright claim, but note that in the first instance OVH is likely to just doxx you by sending your complaint direct to the abuser, so perhaps give your lawyer's postal address instead of your home address. The legal process for copyright claim against a Canadian host differs from the USA's DMCA but I doubt OVH are bright enough to tell the difference.
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social
This is bullshit. I'm blocking that server.
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice hmm…how does one federate a slap across the face through ActivityPub? Can I send a glitter bomb through the fediverse? Can my instance throw a milkshake at Evan to tell him what I think about this behavior?
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice@lgbtqia.space @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social What is it about the word ‘no’ that he doesn’t understand? And ‘stop’.
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social
You blocked him, but he's still replying to you trying to explain why he's the good guy and completely ignoring the fact that if you block him he shouldn't be able to reply. -
@alice@lgbtqia.space @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @AltAfterDark@masto.thefword.club @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social
fwiw, the tags you've shown 404 for me, while some others show up. So it seems he did delete them after all?@AngelicAura that would be lovely.
I wonder how many other Fedifolx would like their stuff removed? My guess is a lot.
He could've headed this off by asking first.
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AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it
Going back:
"Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."
Oh really. "the only person to use"?
Who enforces that?
His replies today:
"No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "
And this is interesting:
"Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"
Yeah
Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself
He really is too, too full of himself
Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50
cc @alice
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@NathanMurdock being forced into "followers-only" posting by someone else's lack of boundaries is a shitty user experience, and likely to be the eventual death of queer and BIPoC Fedi if we let it slide.
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@alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general
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@NathanMurdock sigh. Why do we still court these toxic mega-corps? They're abusive relationships, and will always tend towards the enshittification of user experience in search of more profitability.
It's like setting up Flock cameras in your hippie commune.
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He's one of the authors of the ActivityPub protocol, not some naive newcomer to Fedi - if anything, he's been around long enough (we're talking decades) that he should know better.
(Incidentally, he also should know better than to misuse hashtags, but that's a whole other thing.)
@alex all the more unfathomable that he created such a service with no (documented) attempt at making sure the service is safe.
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice @evan I feel like I'm not completely understanding the issue here. These bots boost all posts tagged with a certain hashtag, right? One bot per hashtag. And that's all they do, right?
I assume the point of them is to make it so instances that the original post maybe isn't federating with, now also receive the post, right? But if that's the case, what's the issue? Are there instances you don't want to be able to see your post?
The point of a hashtag is to get more people to see your post, right? I ask this out of genuine curiosity, I hope I don't come across as "just asking questions" while downplaying your concern. That is not my intention.
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@alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general
As far as I can tell, anything with #capitalists at the helm doesn't understand consent. And capitalism and sexual assault share a lot in common.
'Keep asking until they say yes.'
Or
'Do it anyways, and apologise if caught...and keep doing it'
Or
'Ignore criticism and keep doing it cause they cant stop you' -
Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
@alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social let's say nothing changes: is the only way to stop this nonsense to campaign across all major instances to get the tags server blocked?
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@NathanMurdock being forced into "followers-only" posting by someone else's lack of boundaries is a shitty user experience, and likely to be the eventual death of queer and BIPoC Fedi if we let it slide.
@alice @NathanMurdock This would also destroy the fragile and precious ecosystem of Disabled people/people with disabilities on Fedi. We use hashtags to speak with each other, to share life-saving information, to learn, to spread joy and courage. We shouldn't need to all follow each other to do this.
On Fedi, using "public" hashtags, we have the same kinds of conversations we would have if we were to encounter each other on the streetcar, in a park or at the doctor's office. We see each other. We share life-saving information. We admire each other's cute FFP3 masks.
I encounter ableism here, but it's similar to the ableism I experience on the street, when one ass-hat shouts nonsense because they're afraid of a person in a wheelchair existing.
What Evan is doing is providing a tool for mechanised hate, manufacturing a bigotry machine, creating a beacon, inviting a murder of bigots to swarm me on the sidewalk.
Do. Not. Want.
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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).
Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.
I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).
Do you consider this to be something you have given permission for?
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AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it
Going back:
"Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."
Oh really. "the only person to use"?
Who enforces that?
His replies today:
"No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "
And this is interesting:
"Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"
Yeah
Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself
He really is too, too full of himself
Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50
cc @alice
@FinchHaven @winst0nsmith @alice this "claim a hashtag" kinda gives off NFT vibes. I should shut up otherwise I give some people ideas
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@alice@lgbtqia.space I think you aleardy know but someone did request for it to be Opt-In on the Git Repo which unfortunately, Evan isn't taking it on board and still pulling the "Yeah... BUT, their post is public and they could.. blah-blah-blah"
@matty @alice here is my problem with the "it's posted public so it's for everyone to do whatever they wanna do with it" argument: there is something like an unwritten social etiquette in the fediverse based on mutual respect and especially on decency. Automating this all away for the sake of algorithms and reach is effectively throwing all that into the bin, removing the human factor from the loop. That's not why I joined the Fediverse...
