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I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

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  • trashpanda@m.alittlenook.netT trashpanda@m.alittlenook.net

    @cR0w @chillybot @SecureOwl @neurovagrant @mttaggart Really milking it.

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    #8

    @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @neurovagrant @mttaggart this is a serious thread, how dairy you

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    • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

      @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @neurovagrant @mttaggart this is a serious thread, how dairy you

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      #9

      @SecureOwl @trashpanda @chillybot @neurovagrant @mttaggart Don't BULLy them, Mike.

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      • secureowl@infosec.exchangeS secureowl@infosec.exchange

        @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @neurovagrant @mttaggart this is a serious thread, how dairy you

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        #10

        @SecureOwl @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @neurovagrant @mttaggart don't have a cow, man

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        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

          This call happened more than twenty years ago, and I didn't take it.

          The calltaker who did was brilliant, because it took her exactly one repetition, only one missed beat, to understand what the call really was.

          We spent several hours in training *just* dissecting, sitting with, and understanding that one call, because the concept behind it was so important.

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          #11

          I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

          Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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          • tyzbit@toot.nowT tyzbit@toot.now

            @SecureOwl @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @neurovagrant @mttaggart don't have a cow, man

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            #12

            @tyzbit
            I don't mean to start a beef with anyone
            @SecureOwl @trashpanda @cR0w @neurovagrant @mttaggart

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            • chillybot@infosec.exchangeC chillybot@infosec.exchange

              @tyzbit
              I don't mean to start a beef with anyone
              @SecureOwl @trashpanda @cR0w @neurovagrant @mttaggart

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              #13

              @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @trashpanda @neurovagrant @mttaggart Just steer the other way and we're cool.

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                RE: https://dair-community.social/@alex/116977123749133116

                I was a 911 dispatcher for a decade.

                To really understand how absolutely terrible an idea it is to have AI answer 911 calls, I'll present you with a single real-life call:

                Upon answer, the caller calmly began ordering a pizza. Large, pepperoni. Side order of chicken wings. To be delivered promptly.

                The only sign the caller gave that things were amiss? She rather ignored the first few questions from the calltaker.

                Because she was being physically abused, had already been beaten, and her abuser was *IN THE ROOM* listening to her order pizza.

                Tell me how your AI is going to read between those lines.

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                #14

                @neurovagrant A person calling 911 is also potentially in the worst point of their lives. Many of said points will fuck up peoples minds.

                A 911 opperator has to get a caller from "ramble" to "I am covered in blood" to "I've been stabbed" during a time where blood is not in their head. I doubt AI can navigate that.

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                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                  @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @trashpanda @neurovagrant @mttaggart Just steer the other way and we're cool.

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                  #15

                  @cR0w @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @trashpanda @neurovagrant @mttaggart This whole thing really needs to be put out to pasture

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                  • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                    @cR0w @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @trashpanda @neurovagrant @mttaggart This whole thing really needs to be put out to pasture

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                    #16

                    @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @trashpanda @neurovagrant @mttaggart You're right. It's getting cheesy.

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                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                      @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @trashpanda @neurovagrant @mttaggart You're right. It's getting cheesy.

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                      #17

                      @cR0w @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @neurovagrant @mttaggart You beat me to it. Was just typing this. Lol

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        This call happened more than twenty years ago, and I didn't take it.

                        The calltaker who did was brilliant, because it took her exactly one repetition, only one missed beat, to understand what the call really was.

                        We spent several hours in training *just* dissecting, sitting with, and understanding that one call, because the concept behind it was so important.

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                        #18

                        @neurovagrant How the fuck will AI know what the drunk local in distress is referring to when they call in and use local descriptions for locations and you're rural enough that geolocation of calls sucks rancid ass through a straw?

                        Sorry about the language but really not sorry at all, AI for 911 is *stupid*.

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                          #19

                          @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @mttaggart they're pretty well-done, though

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                          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                            @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @huronbikes @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @mttaggart they're pretty well-done, though

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                            #20

                            @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @mttaggart only if you have a steak in the matter

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                            • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                              @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl @mttaggart only if you have a steak in the matter

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                              #21

                              @huronbikes @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl This was the correct choice

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                              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                @huronbikes @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @cR0w @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl This was the correct choice

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                                #22

                                @mttaggart @huronbikes @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl Tapping out already? Is it pasture bedtime?

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                                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                  @mttaggart @huronbikes @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl Tapping out already? Is it pasture bedtime?

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                                  #23

                                  @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl guess he thinks we're all hat and no cattle.

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                                  • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                                    @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl guess he thinks we're all hat and no cattle.

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                                    #24

                                    @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl If it goes much longer it'll become legenDAIRY.

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                                    • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                      @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl If it goes much longer it'll become legenDAIRY.

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                                      #25

                                      @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl gotta kefir moovin

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                                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                        I want to know how many caller's lives are worth not having to hire human 911 dispatchers, or pay them a decent wage.

                                        Because this will kill people. Not get people killed. AI use in 911 answering will actively kill people.

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                                        #26

                                        @neurovagrant this assumes that they care about killing people, especially women. The tech industry has demonstrated repeatedly that they do not care.

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                                        • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                                          @cR0w @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl gotta kefir moovin

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                                          #27

                                          @huronbikes @mttaggart @neurovagrant @generalx @trashpanda @chillybot @tyzbit @SecureOwl I think the others are feta up with this thread.

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