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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    @hbons Sure. Always punch up as high as possible. (Though I have chosen a different restaurant than originally planned because of their slop menu but I didn't go in of course to tell them.

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    #5

    @tante @hbons

    In some cases it is a kindness to inform that the choice is not neutral.

    Of course, some kindnesses are ill received.

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    • hbons@mastodon.socialH hbons@mastodon.social

      @tante oh yea, if they had a feedback form I’d tell them. 😛

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      #6

      @hbons @tante maybe offer to make them a better flyer and draw it on binder paper

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

        None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

        The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

        But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

        https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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        #7

        @tante tbh Linux does not go full AI slop, but Linus actions are concerning. Not that he has not been wrong before.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

          None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

          The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

          But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

          https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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          #8

          @tante I've seen a push to redefine slop as "particularly bad LLM output", as opposed to LLM output in general.

          "Our new AI tool eliminates slop" my brother in christ you _are_ the slop

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

            None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

            The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

            But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

            https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #9

            @tante This too (Meta interference), appears like an attempt by Meta to take over Infrastructure. They’ve already tried as an ISP, and they have bullied their way into fiber deployment across the world. If I’m reading this correctly, this is very worrisome.

            "Linux is not a social warrior project, it’s a Meta project! When your networking fails, remember to say: Thank you Meta!”

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

              None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

              The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

              But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

              https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #10

              @tante

              The Linux kernel process has become a slop lagoon with a massive feedpipe from the slopfarm. When the slopfarm bubble pops, it takes everything with it, including the slopbrains that feed from the slop lagoon.

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                #11

                Being shamed by @tante is like being tickled by a fly. At most annoying

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                  None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                  The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                  But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                  https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                  #12

                  @tante slop slop slopperdy slop

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                  • hbons@mastodon.socialH hbons@mastodon.social

                    @tante though let’s apply it to institutions and powerful individuals first and foremost.

                    I don’t feel like shaming my local takeaway for their slop flyer. 😛

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                    #13

                    @hbons @tante
                    Rule #1: Don't mess with people who handle your food.

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                    • tmw@ioc.exchangeT tmw@ioc.exchange

                      @hbons @tante maybe offer to make them a better flyer and draw it on binder paper

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                      #14

                      @tmw @hbons @tante Don't forget to include your rate.

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                        None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                        The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                        But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                        https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                        #15

                        @tante When Meta pays your bills and Silicon Valley’s fascist elite invites you to speak, you tend to change. Usually without noticing.

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                          None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                          The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                          But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                          https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                          #16

                          @tante It seems to me that some people’s opposition to AI is downright fanatical. It’s one thing to have silly pictures of cats doing human activities; it’s another thing to use AI to help create software, where it’s actually useful.
                          This black-and-white rejection of generative AI is childish.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                            None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                            The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                            But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                            https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                            mr_harm@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #17

                            @tante man there are layers to this shit onion for sure.

                            Don't like the meta involvement. Don't like the pay-to-play attitude for kernel contributions (although I agree that contributions should not be made easy. They shouldn't be made exclusionary as well. It should just depend on code quality). Don't like the overall tone this is worded ("social warrior project")

                            Unfortunately Linux is still the least bad alternative in terms of compatibility and support compared to windows and MacOS.

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                              None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                              The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                              But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                              https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                              #18

                              @tante The irony of this image. Quite literally took his finger to NVIDIA and shoved it lol.

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                                None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                                The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                                But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                                https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #19

                                @tante I continue to call it slop at work. I am not well liked by some coworkers but I don't give a shit, I don't respect them at all. We'll see how long it takes to get reprimanded by HR I guess, but I ain't stopping.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                                  None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                                  The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                                  But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                                  https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                                  #20

                                  @tante

                                  shame, with a side of guillotine. Because these billionaire techno fascists are shameless.

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                                  • jo@infosec.exchangeJ jo@infosec.exchange

                                    @tante I've seen a push to redefine slop as "particularly bad LLM output", as opposed to LLM output in general.

                                    "Our new AI tool eliminates slop" my brother in christ you _are_ the slop

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #21

                                    @jo @tante
                                    There are many rational reasons to be anti-AI, trained on stolen data, driving climate change, techbros being assholes aso.
                                    But saying: "- No matter how good code it produces, it is still slop!!!!" , that is just going to make you look quite irrational.

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                                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                      "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                                      None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                                      The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                                      But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                                      https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                                      gudenau@hachyderm.io
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                                      #22

                                      @tante How's BSD handling the slop? I might need to switch...

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                                      • jo@infosec.exchangeJ jo@infosec.exchange

                                        @tante I've seen a push to redefine slop as "particularly bad LLM output", as opposed to LLM output in general.

                                        "Our new AI tool eliminates slop" my brother in christ you _are_ the slop

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                                        #23

                                        @jo @tante "I don't vibe code, what I do is" [list of vibe coding techniques]

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          "I suggest the social action: shame. Shame these people. Their actions are shameful. AI bros hate being shamed and they try to make rules against shaming — because shame works.

                                          None of these people doing shameful things deserve a place in polite company. They should be shamed for their shameful choices.

                                          The AI industry is also running a PR push to redefine common word usage. The word “slop” is also super effective — so the bros really hate “slop” and try to define it to mean slop they don’t like.

                                          But all AI output is slop. It’s social spam. That’s what it’s for. It’s slop! Say “slop” every time."

                                          https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #24

                                          @tante [1 of 2] The wording is a bit too strong there, blaming wrong people for wrong things. Slop is a result of a developer ignoring the code output. It was there before LLMs, though people have to try harder even if they just copy-paste from StackOverflow without thinking.

                                          Author assumed there are AI Overlords, while in reality it’s just a bunch of corrupted and greedy (and mostly crazy) technocrats.

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