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What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

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  • callistobeast@literatur.socialC callistobeast@literatur.social

    @benroyce you are correct. Other options, mainly CDU, are incompetent and the press is complicit. The "Left" is seen as the true danger by the establishment. So it really is just us normal people organising against afd.

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    #7

    @Callistobeast

    don't despair. i see so much despair. despair kills. people give into cynicism, which is a form of acceptance of the unacceptable

    keep fighting! never stop! 💪😤

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @elCelio

      i'm an ignorant american but i thought bavaria was the most conservative state

      but from my own national experience i can see the difference between traditional (shitty) social values and pro-plutocrat fiscal policy conservatism, and the new horde of crackpot brainwashed fascist ignorants that was birthed by the plutocrats the "aw shucks" reagan model birthed. so that's saxony anhalt?

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      #8

      @benroyce
      Bavaria is conservative but an economically active state.

      The difference: Bavaria's population increased by 15% since 1990 (the biggest increase), Saxony-Anhalt lost 25% (the biggest decrease).
      Among non city-states, Saxony-Anhalt is the state with the oldest average age, while Bavaria has the youngest.

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      • elcelio@mastodon.unoE elcelio@mastodon.uno

        @benroyce
        Bavaria is conservative but an economically active state.

        The difference: Bavaria's population increased by 15% since 1990 (the biggest increase), Saxony-Anhalt lost 25% (the biggest decrease).
        Among non city-states, Saxony-Anhalt is the state with the oldest average age, while Bavaria has the youngest.

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        #9

        @elCelio @benroyce Speaking of age and as a side note I've remembered that apparently the age group that showed the least support for the far right in Germany's 2025 election was those over 70 (10%), right? For all other age groups (18–69), support ranged from 19% to 26%. That looked terrible as future projection. BTW Spain's not that different.
        https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-and-voter-demographics-explained-in-charts/a-71724186

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

          #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

          Fuck

          That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

          Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

          Flip it before the cancer grows

          A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

          https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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          #10

          @benroyce The cultural split has been developing for years and it's only accelerated in recent years under the influence of US and Chinese social media platforms. Germany isn't unique in that regard, of course.

          Saxony-Anhalt is very rural, there are no big urban areas there. So I think it's only natural that the racism-fueled disinformation campaigns targeting rural people are going to have the strongest results in that state.

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          • aho@mastodon.socialA aho@mastodon.social

            @benroyce former East Germany never had any education on why authoritarian rule is bad... many of the nazi seemed also get high positions in the communist party. Generally more unemployment in the East compared with the rest of Germany, so all this makes them fall for AfD's lies.
            Based on the German laws, I do not understand why this party is even allowed to be, a nazi in a suite is a much a nazi in uniform.

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            #11

            @aho @benroyce as long as the #prüf @pruef_de demonstrations are happening I have hope, that any party which aims actions against the constitution will be banned one day.

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            • txtx@mastodon.socialT txtx@mastodon.social

              @benroyce The cultural split has been developing for years and it's only accelerated in recent years under the influence of US and Chinese social media platforms. Germany isn't unique in that regard, of course.

              Saxony-Anhalt is very rural, there are no big urban areas there. So I think it's only natural that the racism-fueled disinformation campaigns targeting rural people are going to have the strongest results in that state.

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              #12

              @txtx also, the denazification did not work well in East Germany. There are A LOT OF nazis there, not hindered in the least by other people nor the government. They are, like white men in the us, rarely held accountable for their crimes against everybody else. @benroyce

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                Fuck

                That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                Flip it before the cancer grows

                A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                #13

                @benroyce Greetings from Germany: You would call those people prolly Rednecks.
                Its depressing to see those Retronazis rise again. As if 1933 would have never happened. There was a time, where being a fascist was like social selfmurder. Not anymore. Media are pretty busy to normalize those assholes. This are tiring times. And stupid ones. I just hope they wont win as big as “predicted”.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @elCelio

                  i'm an ignorant american but i thought bavaria was the most conservative state

                  but from my own national experience i can see the difference between traditional (shitty) social values and pro-plutocrat fiscal policy conservatism, and the new horde of crackpot brainwashed fascist ignorants that was birthed by the plutocrats the "aw shucks" reagan model birthed. so that's saxony anhalt?

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                  #14

                  @benroyce @elCelio

                  It's absolutely America's fault. We destabilized the Middle East, storming into Iraq and losing focus in Afghanistan. Destabilized the whole region. Refused to take responsibility for the extraordinary refugee crisis we created. Millions fleeing to Europe, year after year.

                  We gave nazis exactly the foothold they needed to come back from the brink of extinction. Fear, doubt. Absolute exhaustion of those who tried desperately to help.

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                  • kikebenlloch@mastodon.socialK kikebenlloch@mastodon.social

                    @elCelio @benroyce Speaking of age and as a side note I've remembered that apparently the age group that showed the least support for the far right in Germany's 2025 election was those over 70 (10%), right? For all other age groups (18–69), support ranged from 19% to 26%. That looked terrible as future projection. BTW Spain's not that different.
                    https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-and-voter-demographics-explained-in-charts/a-71724186

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                    #15

                    @kikebenlloch

                    old people vote for older parties, young people vote for younger parties.
                    it's the same for the far left.

                    @benroyce

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                      #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                      Fuck

                      That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                      Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                      Flip it before the cancer grows

                      A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                      https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                      #16

                      @benroyce East Germany, having been under the Soviet yolk, still thinks that because Hitler hated communism he was a good guy.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @elCelio

                        i'm an ignorant american but i thought bavaria was the most conservative state

                        but from my own national experience i can see the difference between traditional (shitty) social values and pro-plutocrat fiscal policy conservatism, and the new horde of crackpot brainwashed fascist ignorants that was birthed by the plutocrats the "aw shucks" reagan model birthed. so that's saxony anhalt?

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                        #17

                        bavaria was the most conservative state

                        Conservative != nazi.

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                        • elcelio@mastodon.unoE elcelio@mastodon.uno

                          @kikebenlloch

                          old people vote for older parties, young people vote for younger parties.
                          it's the same for the far left.

                          @benroyce

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                          #18

                          except young people doesn’t vote.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                            #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                            Fuck

                            That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                            Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                            Flip it before the cancer grows

                            A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                            https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                            #19

                            @benroyce

                            Dummheit, Aggression und Egoismus never dies

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                            • uriel@x.keinpfusch.netU uriel@x.keinpfusch.net

                              bavaria was the most conservative state

                              Conservative != nazi.

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                              #20

                              @uriel

                              the pro-plutocrat fiscal policies and shitty cruel social "values" of the conservative creates the stage for the nazi

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                              • diekehrseite@mastodon.socialD diekehrseite@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce Greetings from Germany: You would call those people prolly Rednecks.
                                Its depressing to see those Retronazis rise again. As if 1933 would have never happened. There was a time, where being a fascist was like social selfmurder. Not anymore. Media are pretty busy to normalize those assholes. This are tiring times. And stupid ones. I just hope they wont win as big as “predicted”.

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                                #21

                                @diekehrseite 😩

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @diekehrseite 😩

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                                  #22

                                  @benroyce @diekehrseite One thing: they are expected for major gains, but some very rich people are hyping the media. The pre-election polls (polls.are.not.votes) still say they cannot go alone. We now have to watch carefully which party is ready to set all that is left of their backbone on fire.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                                    #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                                    Fuck

                                    That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                                    Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                                    Flip it before the cancer grows

                                    A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                                    https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                                    #23

                                    @benroyce
                                    1/2
                                    Don't fall for the cliche about the bad east germany against the good west germany part.

                                    Keep in mind the most original Nazis where quite fast integrated into the new germany development after WW2. Since then they kept networks of interests alive.
                                    That's why #project025 found a well connected base at least here in germany.
                                    To focus the public just on SaxonyAnhalt is mainly a distraction of the right wing politics and mediastrategies already happening.

                                    Still a fucking bad sign.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

                                      #AfD is poised to win the election in #SaxonyAnhalt on Sunday?

                                      Fuck

                                      That's former East Germany right? I sense a possible cultural spit with former West Germany. I could be wrong

                                      Well, take it from this depressed and angry American: don't stop fighting

                                      Flip it before the cancer grows

                                      A lot of Americans just sort of gave up. It's maddening how easily so many just roll over. Don't do that

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/05/europe/germany-state-election-afd-trump-russia-intl

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                                      #24

                                      @benroyce
                                      2/2

                                      There is a reason why a whole political movement hasn’t suceeded to ban the right wing party AFD, despite being proven anticonstitutional.
                                      Since years politicians refuse to use the constitutional way to start to get a court rule by our highest court.
                                      Take an educated guess why that is.

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                                      • grootinside@troet.cafeG grootinside@troet.cafe

                                        @benroyce
                                        1/2
                                        Don't fall for the cliche about the bad east germany against the good west germany part.

                                        Keep in mind the most original Nazis where quite fast integrated into the new germany development after WW2. Since then they kept networks of interests alive.
                                        That's why #project025 found a well connected base at least here in germany.
                                        To focus the public just on SaxonyAnhalt is mainly a distraction of the right wing politics and mediastrategies already happening.

                                        Still a fucking bad sign.

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                                        #25

                                        @grootinside

                                        zero argument

                                        i'm an ignorant american, i am way out of my depth. i should be careful talking about east germany v west germany

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                                        • bugspriet@social.tchncs.deB bugspriet@social.tchncs.de

                                          @benroyce @diekehrseite One thing: they are expected for major gains, but some very rich people are hyping the media. The pre-election polls (polls.are.not.votes) still say they cannot go alone. We now have to watch carefully which party is ready to set all that is left of their backbone on fire.

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                                          #26

                                          @Bugspriet @diekehrseite

                                          that's the model here in the usa too:

                                          the plutocrat-bigot political axis. this unholy alliance

                                          this is the engine that is driving fascism

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