What the fuck is going on in #Germany #Deutschland

[todymotmot@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @elCelio

It's absolutely America's fault. We destabilized the Middle East, storming into Iraq and losing focus in Afghanistan. Destabilized the whole region. Refused to take responsibility for the extraordinary refugee crisis we created. Millions fleeing to Europe, year after year.

We gave nazis exactly the foothold they needed to come back from the brink of extinction. Fear, doubt. Absolute exhaustion of those who tried desperately to help.

[elcelio@mastodon.uno]

@kikebenlloch

old people vote for older parties, young people vote for younger parties.
it's the same for the far left.

@benroyce

[backfromthedud@mas.to]

@benroyce East Germany, having been under the Soviet yolk, still thinks that because Hitler hated communism he was a good guy.

[uriel@x.keinpfusch.net]

bavaria was the most conservative state

Conservative != nazi.

[uriel@x.keinpfusch.net]

except young people doesn’t vote.

[gegga66@mastodon.social]

@benroyce

Dummheit, Aggression und Egoismus never dies

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@uriel

the pro-plutocrat fiscal policies and shitty cruel social "values" of the conservative creates the stage for the nazi

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@diekehrseite

[bugspriet@social.tchncs.de]

@benroyce @diekehrseite One thing: they are expected for major gains, but some very rich people are hyping the media. The pre-election polls (polls.are.not.votes) still say they cannot go alone. We now have to watch carefully which party is ready to set all that is left of their backbone on fire.

[grootinside@troet.cafe]

@benroyce
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Don't fall for the cliche about the bad east germany against the good west germany part.

Keep in mind the most original Nazis where quite fast integrated into the new germany development after WW2. Since then they kept networks of interests alive.
That's why #project025 found a well connected base at least here in germany.
To focus the public just on SaxonyAnhalt is mainly a distraction of the right wing politics and mediastrategies already happening.

Still a fucking bad sign.

[grootinside@troet.cafe]

@benroyce
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There is a reason why a whole political movement hasn’t suceeded to ban the right wing party AFD, despite being proven anticonstitutional.
Since years politicians refuse to use the constitutional way to start to get a court rule by our highest court.
Take an educated guess why that is.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@grootinside

zero argument

i'm an ignorant american, i am way out of my depth. i should be careful talking about east germany v west germany

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Bugspriet @diekehrseite

that's the model here in the usa too:

the plutocrat-bigot political axis. this unholy alliance

this is the engine that is driving fascism

[bugspriet@social.tchncs.de]

@benroyce I know. I am 53 and my grandfather went with the Nazis as a young man. My mother broke the contact later on for he still believed in a coming III. Reich with all the hatred and evil. Luckily I was a science nerd at a young age and did not fall for his lies and stories (+met the right people to the right time). But spending most of my time in a library I soon noticed his twisting and bending history. @diekehrseite

[grootinside@troet.cafe]

@benroyce

Trying to follow local shitshows on the other side of the world is *not* ignorant.
Most of us here don't know shit about what's really going on in the U.S. either.
#NoKings ...
We here keep getting focused on the horrorbaby.

Here it's the same. Most of the many! protests against Nazis right in #SaxonyAnhalt "didn't make it" to any media.🤨

That's why something like the fediverse got so important.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@Bugspriet @diekehrseite

i used to be friends (i moved) with a former bundeswehr guy. he was from munich and when they tried to reassign him to east germany after reunification he said "fuck no" and quit and immigrated to the usa

he married a 1st generation german american woman. over at his house one evening after too many beers her very old mother started talking about when the ussr entered east germany at the end of wwii. they quickly shushed her and moved her out of the room!

[bugspriet@social.tchncs.de]

@benroyce Ja, they definetely were not all part of the resistance... I dug out some family history which made my blood freeze. @diekehrseite

[elala@social.cologne]

@benroyce
Saxony-Anhalt is one of five federal states in which the AfD is classified as a confirmed far-right extremist party from the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
Based on the experiences of National Socialism, our Basic Law expressly provides for the possibility of initiating proceedings to ban parties that act in a manner hostile to the constitution.

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[elala@social.cologne]

@benroyce
A motion for such proceedings must be filed with the Federal Constitutional Court by the federal government _or_ the Bundesrat _or_ the Bundestag, which then reviews the facts of the case and, if warranted, issues a ban on the party.

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[elala@social.cologne]

@benroyce
However, none of the aforementioned institutions authorized to file such a motion has so far been able to bring itself to stop the neo-fascists, even though there have been—and continue to be—large demonstrations demanding precisely that.

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