I don't want a city on Mars

[yewa@troet.cafe]

@henry_null @greenpeace Vielleicht der @TommyKrappweis?

[arpadlinks@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace Agree... by the way, I think that a self-improving city (that is able to build other cities) on Moon or Mars cannot even be implemented now, because economy depends on so many things, one city is not enough... I think someone should study this and enlighten Elon Musk about it.

[kerf@mastoart.social]

@greenpeace
'Terraform Earth!'

[ihaveadui@mastodon.social]

@Irmgard @greenpeace This was ALWAYS the end result of capitalism. I knew this when I was ten years old.

[ihaveadui@mastodon.social]

@pasci_lei @greenpeace not under the current format.

[cascheranno@hachyderm.io]

@GOKUSHRM @greenpeace unless you want it in inhospitable living conditions, mars isn’t planet B, and ecological indicators like bees and seas matter, too.

[cascheranno@hachyderm.io]

@ClintonAnderson @greenpeace your science fu is weak if you think humans can leave, flourish, and remain human.

[clintonanderson@universeodon.com]

@cascheranno @greenpeace

You don't think we're not going to evolve into something after "human"?

That's highly unscientific.

We have, at best, 5 ish billion years before the local Star expands and cooks this little rock to ash.

That will be the end of us, if we don't get gone before then.

Given how often our little planet gets whacked by spade rocks large enough to kill most life, we probably don't have anywhere near that long.

Facts.

[antdude@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace what about ants?

[barbramon1@mas.to]

@greenpeace The important thing here is that we could have both a paradise on earth and space exploration.
The scales have been purposely tipped by capitalists. They want us to believe that there are not enough resources for all of us to survive and flourish on our beautiful planet and to explore our wondrous universe.
They hoard the wealth and watch us fight for scraps. Let's never forget that we are many and they are few.

[cavyherd@wandering.shop]

@greenpeace

A reliable living wage would be neat, too. Expecially if it supports (or at least doesn't erode) those other three.

[gokushrm@mastodon.social]

@cascheranno @greenpeace not hard to provide all mentioned things at budget level, unless you stock all money in your(rich people & politicians) pocket

[gwentlarry@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace

To my mind being a civilised nation requires that everyone living in that nation has access to:

- clean water,

- sufficient food,

- effective sanitation,

- basic medical care,

- effective shelter from the weather.

According to this, I suspect no nation on planet earth can be regarded as civilised.

[cascheranno@hachyderm.io]

@GOKUSHRM @greenpeace yup!!

I saw Bernie and Khanna advocated for 5% wealth tax. Full stan that. And Kat Abu. And The Squad. And Mamdani.

Love greenpeace’s list. I tend to say something ‘lives with dignity’ish in mine.

[gokushrm@mastodon.social]

@cascheranno @greenpeace wealth tax for everyone? Or just rich/businessman?

[teledyn@mstdn.ca]

@greenpeace

When I was a pre-teen (when Silent Spring was news) I wanted to join Earth First. Didn't know much about them, but imagined they were to Greenpeace like what the IRA were to Sinn Féin

[stonykark@mstdn.ca]

@greenpeace @aral i want US to survive, too

[oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social]

@Barbramon1 @greenpeace

Thanks for calling my attention to this statement of sane attitudes by Greenpeace. And for your response, which reminds us that the "crisis of human species survival" and a suggested "inadequacy of resources" here on Earth are deceptions which serve a tiny group of deranged billionaires.

It is telling that the same people who push this nonsense are also aggressively working to crush the worldwide trend toward reproductive wisdom and sane levels of population density.

[mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.uk]

@greenpeace @pluralistic
Well, to be honest, I want the water, climate, and bees, and a city on Mars would be nice; I just don’t want Musk or anyone like him to have anything to do with it.

[nassimsahar@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace Sounds good. But bees are not the only pollinators, and the use of domesticated honeybees for honey and pollination often harms native pollinators.