I don't want a city on Mars

[pasci_lei@social.pascal-leinert.de]

@greenpeace@mastodon.social You can literally have both.

[clintonanderson@universeodon.com]

@greenpeace

I want clean water

I want a stable climate

I want and end to extinctions

But this rock is doomed. We have to get off it, in a significant manner.

[xmacdonald@mstdn.ca]

@greenpeace They didn't ask us because they don't care what we want.

[faithlessaint@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace I want environnemental protection and technological advancements walking side by side.

[woe2you@beige.party]

@greenpeace

I do not like it, Sam Alt-man
I do not want your AI spam.

[aka_quant_noir@hcommons.social]

@greenpeace

I don't want unlimited growth.
I don't want unlimited wealth.
I don't want dictatorial rule.

I want respect for indigenous ways.
I want use of indigenous technologies.
I want sequestration of fossil fuels.

[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@greenpeace You might want to _read_ "A city on Mars" though.

(It's a really good book about how feasible a colony on Mars actually is. Spoiler: It isn't. https://www.acityonmars.com/)

[redred@defcon.social]

@greenpeace And children to stop being fucking killed

[yewa@troet.cafe]

@henry_null @greenpeace Vielleicht der @TommyKrappweis?

[arpadlinks@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace Agree... by the way, I think that a self-improving city (that is able to build other cities) on Moon or Mars cannot even be implemented now, because economy depends on so many things, one city is not enough... I think someone should study this and enlighten Elon Musk about it.

[kerf@mastoart.social]

@greenpeace
'Terraform Earth!'

[ihaveadui@mastodon.social]

@Irmgard @greenpeace This was ALWAYS the end result of capitalism. I knew this when I was ten years old.

[ihaveadui@mastodon.social]

@pasci_lei @greenpeace not under the current format.

[cascheranno@hachyderm.io]

@GOKUSHRM @greenpeace unless you want it in inhospitable living conditions, mars isn’t planet B, and ecological indicators like bees and seas matter, too.

[cascheranno@hachyderm.io]

@ClintonAnderson @greenpeace your science fu is weak if you think humans can leave, flourish, and remain human.

[clintonanderson@universeodon.com]

@cascheranno @greenpeace

You don't think we're not going to evolve into something after "human"?

That's highly unscientific.

We have, at best, 5 ish billion years before the local Star expands and cooks this little rock to ash.

That will be the end of us, if we don't get gone before then.

Given how often our little planet gets whacked by spade rocks large enough to kill most life, we probably don't have anywhere near that long.

Facts.

[antdude@mastodon.social]

@greenpeace what about ants?

[barbramon1@mas.to]

@greenpeace The important thing here is that we could have both a paradise on earth and space exploration.
The scales have been purposely tipped by capitalists. They want us to believe that there are not enough resources for all of us to survive and flourish on our beautiful planet and to explore our wondrous universe.
They hoard the wealth and watch us fight for scraps. Let's never forget that we are many and they are few.

[cavyherd@wandering.shop]

@greenpeace

A reliable living wage would be neat, too. Expecially if it supports (or at least doesn't erode) those other three.

[gokushrm@mastodon.social]

@cascheranno @greenpeace not hard to provide all mentioned things at budget level, unless you stock all money in your(rich people & politicians) pocket