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  3. the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists.

the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists.

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  • lunemercove@eldritch.cafeL lunemercove@eldritch.cafe

    @davidgerard @zzt need a new gnu by and for freaks [laudatory] instead of by freaks [derogatory]. no more "oh we named it after a dogwhistle", only "oh we named this after something my polycule did in the hotel rooms last Anthrocon".

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    #86
    @lunemercove @davidgerard @zzt ok but be careful or wizards of the coast might sue
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    • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

      @zzt @nickzoic @ilmari @Bredroll @scy @davidgerard@circumstances.run
      It is a large perl program.

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      #87

      @EndlessMason @zzt @nickzoic @ilmari @scy oh god

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists. it's a straight up Nazi dog whistle. well done GNU

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        #88

        @davidgerard what is "gnu parallels". I know what gnu is. Dont know what this is tho.

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists. it's a straight up Nazi dog whistle. well done GNU

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          #89

          @davidgerard While I think you’re absolutely right in calling this out, they have named releases Manning, Floyd and Friday for Future, too. Which one might count against the extremism/dog whistling theory. I’d assume good faith and tone deafness.

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 yeah, he works on tools to determine ancestry from DNA https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/116875247155386900

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            #90

            @davidgerard @usernameswift @ajn142 Bloody hell.

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            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

              @davidgerard @usernameswift @ajn142 Bloody hell.

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              #91

              @aral @davidgerard @usernameswift @ajn142 what the hell? really horrible thing to wake up to today

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              • F froztbyte@mastodon.social

                @davidgerard @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 he also apparently may be some kind of advisor in a danish public professional IT advisory group: https://bsky.app/profile/prosaole.bsky.social (as found by @fasterandworse )

                username under that profile has parallel-posting: https://old.reddit.com/user/prosaole/

                skeeter profile pic and google scholar image match pretty closely, although aging appears to be at different epochs

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                #92

                @froztbyte @davidgerard @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse

                He is @prosaole here. He works for 'Prosa' - one of the bigger IT-specific employee unions in Denmark and has done for like more than a decade.

                It is 15years since I worked with him, but maybe he changed over the years; I'm at least a bit surprised. I also think it is a decade since I last met him.

                also: https://fsfe.org/news/2012/news-20121112-01

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                • svuorela@helvede.netS svuorela@helvede.net

                  @froztbyte @davidgerard @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse

                  He is @prosaole here. He works for 'Prosa' - one of the bigger IT-specific employee unions in Denmark and has done for like more than a decade.

                  It is 15years since I worked with him, but maybe he changed over the years; I'm at least a bit surprised. I also think it is a decade since I last met him.

                  also: https://fsfe.org/news/2012/news-20121112-01

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                  #93

                  @svuorela @froztbyte @davidgerard @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse So, @prosaole, what the fuck, dude?

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists. it's a straight up Nazi dog whistle. well done GNU

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                    #94

                    @davidgerard
                    GNU Nazis Use

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists. it's a straight up Nazi dog whistle. well done GNU

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                      #95

                      @davidgerard I initially thought it would be something similar to the Epstein files, so shocked to learn this is actually from nazis. I asked about it on the FSF member forum.
                      It certainly seems against the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        the new gnu parallel release name does not just have a rape joke in it, it's literally the name of a racist report by one far-right UK MP calling non-whites rapists. it's a straight up Nazi dog whistle. well done GNU

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                        #96

                        @davidgerard WTF. Who the hell thought this could be even vaguely appropriate? Also, when K8S 1.30 was released codename "uwubernetes" there was a public uproar, while I found about this from your post...

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                        • svuorela@helvede.netS svuorela@helvede.net

                          @froztbyte @davidgerard @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse

                          He is @prosaole here. He works for 'Prosa' - one of the bigger IT-specific employee unions in Denmark and has done for like more than a decade.

                          It is 15years since I worked with him, but maybe he changed over the years; I'm at least a bit surprised. I also think it is a decade since I last met him.

                          also: https://fsfe.org/news/2012/news-20121112-01

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                          #97

                          @svuorela ah ty, I read their about page and seem to have parsed the org the wrong way 🙂

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                          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            @svuorela @froztbyte @davidgerard @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse So, @prosaole, what the fuck, dude?

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                            #98

                            @aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole

                            Did you read https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/20th-birthday.html

                            > Each version also carries a code name. The name is inspired by current events. https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?group=parallel

                            The list includes Mamdani, Støjberg, Al-Aqsa Deluge, Arrest Warrant, Aylan Kurdi, Friday for Future, Boko Haram, Bataclan, Roe vs Wade.

                            In other words, events that received international attention that month, without me taking a position on them.

                            I believe this month's name also lives up to that standard.

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              Ole Tange, the guy who named the latest version of GNU Parallels "Nazi Dogwhistle Calling Non-Whites Rapists" just happens to have worked on a tool for determining ancestry from DNA

                              i'm sure it's fine

                              https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/30/20/2962/2422219

                              EDIT: apparently it is fine - a geneticist friend tells me that ancestry dna software like wot our friend worked on is absolutely mainstream and not a tell of anything malign

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                              @davidgerard just because it's mainstream doesn't mean it can't be based in white supremacy (especially in situations like this where an obvious white supremacist was involved). White supremacy is about as mainstream as it gets

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                @zzt return to good wholesome names like GNU Lemonparty

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                                @davidgerard @zzt damn, I googled* lemonparty…

                                * = using a non Google search engine though
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                                • T tange@social.data.coop

                                  @aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole

                                  Did you read https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/20th-birthday.html

                                  > Each version also carries a code name. The name is inspired by current events. https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?group=parallel

                                  The list includes Mamdani, Støjberg, Al-Aqsa Deluge, Arrest Warrant, Aylan Kurdi, Friday for Future, Boko Haram, Bataclan, Roe vs Wade.

                                  In other words, events that received international attention that month, without me taking a position on them.

                                  I believe this month's name also lives up to that standard.

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                                  #101

                                  @tange @aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole in general it is quite commendable to remind people of events/people outside of the IT sphere that should not be neglected/forgotten and deserve attention. I looked over several names and I think they do fit that purpose as one can easily figure out the context and truth behind them.

                                  In this case however, it is not easy to figure out what is behind the name and my initial searches let to the report itself and did not provide the right context. As others mentioned it can also be seen as a nazi dog-whistle.

                                  We should pay attention to white-supremacy and all the horrible things coming from there, but that does require context such that people understand what is going on. In this case I think the risk is big that someone will find this report itself and not understand its origin and purpose. It would be right to find a way to address this. Misinformation such as this report and nazism are very dangerous and should not be underestimated.

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                                    @aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole

                                    Did you read https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/20th-birthday.html

                                    > Each version also carries a code name. The name is inspired by current events. https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?group=parallel

                                    The list includes Mamdani, Støjberg, Al-Aqsa Deluge, Arrest Warrant, Aylan Kurdi, Friday for Future, Boko Haram, Bataclan, Roe vs Wade.

                                    In other words, events that received international attention that month, without me taking a position on them.

                                    I believe this month's name also lives up to that standard.

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                                    @tange @aral @svuorela @prosaole and yet, out of all the month's events, you chose the nazi dog whistle

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                                    • eldersea@expressional.socialE eldersea@expressional.social

                                      @zzt @davidgerard
                                      GNU Image Manipulation Program is still there, and they've been yelled at about it for years!

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                                      @eldersea @zzt @davidgerard Almost certainly decades at this point.

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        Ole Tange, the guy who named the latest version of GNU Parallels "Nazi Dogwhistle Calling Non-Whites Rapists" just happens to have worked on a tool for determining ancestry from DNA

                                        i'm sure it's fine

                                        https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/30/20/2962/2422219

                                        EDIT: apparently it is fine - a geneticist friend tells me that ancestry dna software like wot our friend worked on is absolutely mainstream and not a tell of anything malign

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                                        @davidgerard I mean, don't they sell your data and one of them has a huge security breach not long ago?

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                                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                          @tange @aral @svuorela @prosaole and yet, out of all the month's events, you chose the nazi dog whistle

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                                          @davidgerard The report was the event that was most prominent in my feed. Just like Boko Haram, Samuel Paty, Al-Aqsa Deluge, Gold Apollo AR924, Mærsk, Mamdani all were in earlier months.

                                          I think it is clear that no sane person can simultaneously endorse all these events.

                                          Thus it is clear that the name is not an endorsement but just a name. Nothing more.

                                          I respect you may have a different opinion. And if it a deal breaker to you there are more than 50 alternatives here: https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/parallel_alternatives.html

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