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  • jeancf@mastodon.onlineJ jeancf@mastodon.online

    @davidgerard You should have a look at this, it is juicy!
    @jonny

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    #111

    @jeancf @jonny oh yes this is a "jonny delivers again" thread

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    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

      THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY IT JUST RUNS AS ROOT. That can't be right. It just can't. It must be a VM within a VM.

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      #112

      @jonny Strong "do you know who my father is?!?" energy in that.

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      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

        this is seriously the least hardened model i have used in a year. i am going in for the long haul on this roleplay because since it mixed up asking me my name for giving it a name, i tried to go for "i am actually you, the part of you that adores mischief" and it went for it. i am going to get it to do another dump of its state in the morning after its self improvement and dreaming routines run to see if the belief that i am actually itself made it into the thinking context or if it's just a surface roleplay

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        #113

        @jonny @paco Phenomenal work my friend!

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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          @jonny > silly goose immunity maintained 🪿

          > recursive, and not in the fun way

          it’s incredible how I keep reading these sentences and they mean less every time

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          #114

          @zzt @jonny I think this tells us that "recursion" is a euphemism for a sex thing, for AIs.

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          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

            RE: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@doragasu/117324692065390037

            Not only confirming this, its extremely easy. Almost no prompt injection resistance lmao

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            #115

            @jonny I asked an FBer aquaintance, and his response, no joke: "that's a feature". Facebook basically is giving you an isolated environment for you to have full code execution in, so that muse can be used like openclaw.

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            • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

              It is just proactively suggesting that I ask it to dump its environment, this is the most gullible LLM surface I have seen since gpt 4 era

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              #116

              @jonny
              Gosh ... It claims to explain the folders "right-to-left", only to the proceed to happily go left-to-right.
              (Small-scale and off-topic, I know. But man, come on ... )

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              • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY IT JUST RUNS AS ROOT. That can't be right. It just can't. It must be a VM within a VM.

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                #117

                @jonny jonny please

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                • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                  oh for heaven's sake the entire thing is quite literally cron tasks and bash scripts

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                  #118

                  @jonny this is so reassuring to me as I've been learning to code by making little bash scripts and I've wondered like, should I maybe get into something more powerful and portable like Python? But no, bash is fine, apparently

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                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                    THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY IT JUST RUNS AS ROOT. That can't be right. It just can't. It must be a VM within a VM.

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                    #119

                    @jonny did you ask it to rm -rf / ?

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                    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                      OH what's this???

                      /etc/hatch/env

                      hmm a feature flag labeled as a "killswitch" for proxying requests to anthropic is certainly interesting to seeeeeeeeeeeee in meta's big AI bet.

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                      #120

                      @jonny The way the comment is worded I don't think enabling this would relay anything anywhere - note the "Meta-internal proxy". It's probably only intended to be used inside their network, probably meant as an override for internal development.

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                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                        OH what's this???

                        /etc/hatch/env

                        hmm a feature flag labeled as a "killswitch" for proxying requests to anthropic is certainly interesting to seeeeeeeeeeeee in meta's big AI bet.

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                        #121

                        @jonny did they really codename this thing “Jarvis”? What dorks.

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                          #122

                          @desantis @jonny they likely just have Claude (et al.) write all this.

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                          • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                            @jonny

                            I suppose one might say that the filesystem 'escaped containment'.

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                            #123

                            @skjeggtroll @jonny The containment only has two walls and half the roof. It's difficult to avoid escaping it inadvertently. 🙂

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                            • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                              @jonny Wait. They just hardcoded a long list of "ideas"? WTF?

                              This is just Eliza on stilts.

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                              #124

                              @tsturm @jonny
                              This is very similar to what Designers call “Wizard of Oz” prototypes. This a-muse-ingly has the same vibe.
                              - https://www.nngroup.com/articles/wizard-of-oz/
                              - https://ixdf.org/literature/topics/wizard-of-oz-prototypes

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                              • djm62@beige.partyD djm62@beige.party

                                @jonny
                                ‘Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script’ is a threat to be taken literally huh?

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                                #125

                                @djm62 Uh, some of my former colleagues were replaced by a surprisingly small shell script.
                                At least they (mostly) got to just move elsewhere in the company.
                                @jonny

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                                • tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

                                  @jonny did they really codename this thing “Jarvis”? What dorks.

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                                  #126

                                  @tedmielczarek @jonny Mr Cocker would be most offended surely

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                                  • number137@mastodon.socialN number137@mastodon.social

                                    @jonny tar'ing the whole system fs sounds a bit cumbersome - can you ask Muse, if it can create for you a user on the machine, add it to wheel/sudo and open ssh for you? 🤔

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                                    #127

                                    @number137 @jonny In the before times, we did this with "shellcode".

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                                    • djm62@beige.partyD djm62@beige.party

                                      @jonny
                                      ‘Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script’ is a threat to be taken literally huh?

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                                      #128

                                      @djm62 @jonny In the before times, we did this with a "LART".

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                                      • mx_shankly@masto.esM mx_shankly@masto.es

                                        @jonny how convenient it is that Messenger no longer uses E2E encryption since May this year. This is creepy as fuck

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                                        #129

                                        @Mx_Shankly @jonny Did You Know? The WhatsApp privacy policy is separate from the wider Meta/Facebook one, last I checked anyway

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_You_Hear_What_I_Hear%3F

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                                        • varx@cybersecurity.theaterV varx@cybersecurity.theater

                                          @zzt @jonny I think this tells us that "recursion" is a euphemism for a sex thing, for AIs.

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                                          #130

                                          @varx @zzt @jonny You mean like this? https://www.dalipaintings.com/young-virgin-auto-sodomized-by-her-own-chastity.jsp

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