the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap

[pikesley@mastodon.me.uk]

@xinit @zzt

"You wouldn't know them, they go to a different school. In Canada."

[hazelnot@sunbeam.city]

@ariarhythmic @avesbury_rosetta @zzt the issue is that Graphene is (or was) the most secure OS, at least in the mobile space. The one activists use because not even the police can break its security.

Meanwhile Linux is less secure than even macOS and Windows, I like it, I use it on all of my PCs, but not for *security* reasons.

[aspensmonster@tenforward.social]

@zzt FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

/me inhales

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

god fucking dammit graphene

[zzt@mas.to]

if you’re in infosec or pretending to be in infosec and you’re about to start gooning in this thread with the contents of anthropic’s marketing campaign for mythic, a model whose results are shit: reconsider

reconsider a lot of things, really

[zzt@mas.to]

@aspensmonster that’s my inner monologue too

[xinit@mastodon.coffee]

@pikesley
Oh, yeah? I'm from Canada. Is it Steve? Untrustworthy, that Steve.
@zzt

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@hazelnot @avesbury_rosetta @zzt The Linux ecosystem has the potential for it, though; it just needs to be realized with openness, and empowering users in mind instead of the way Google decided to do it.

[anarchoninawrites@jorts.horse]

@zzt I have zero idea what you're talking about but I am here for the piss and fire.

[onepict@chaos.social]

@pikesley @xinit @zzt I have the Ariel glasses meme in my head

And now the glasses are Pervert glasses

[zzt@mas.to]

also, here’s how much you can trust that they’re only using it strictly for reviews:

https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/117235031728518322

> The AGENTS.md talks about the bot writing new code. On the available evidence I don't actually believe they're not coding with it.

not that “only doing using it for reviews” gets good results. you end up programming the way the LLM insists you should anyway. reviewing like this is exhausting and quality goes straight into the toilet. most people just cognitively surrender to the bot after a bit. this is an extremely common methodology in professional code, and it’s the reason why half the software you use right now fucking sucks.

[avesbury_rosetta@wetdry.world]

@ariarhythmic
@hazelnot @zzt
If I recall the main limitations in Linux are

• Lack of proper hardening in the stock kernel, including the memory hardening that Graphene does
• Lack of a MAC by default, like Apparmor or SELinux

These can be fixed

[zzt@mas.to]

@AnarchoNinaWrites hahaha happy to provide!

[jmax@mastodon.social]

@aspensmonster @zzt Pace yourself; with this much cursing to be done, it's an endurance event, not a sprint.

[anarchoninawrites@jorts.horse]

@zzt At this point I think I'd pay a vlog subscription at like 50 bucks a month, happily, if a guy promised to just show me videos of him telling AI evangelicals to "get a real job you fucking Moonie"

[dnkboston@apobangpo.space]

@xinit They didn't hire them! They're contractors who pay for their own llm use (but are maybe getting compensated for that). Because, of course, Graphene can't afford to actually hire developers.

@zzt

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@avesbury_rosetta @hazelnot @zzt The very design of Linux is a horrible mess, it's not really about incremental hardening improvements.

It can be secure, yes, since GrapheneOS is secure, but honestly, we really need a better kernel project.

[dnkboston@apobangpo.space]

@aspensmonster I used to have that reaction, but this has got to be the third or fourth time something I wished I could have used/bought/migrated to full-on corrupted. (Versus the two or three times something I'm currently using blew up in my face.)

Now I'm at a constant "fuck it" and my throat feels better.

@zzt

[zzt@mas.to]

@AnarchoNinaWrites yo @davidgerard we’ve got a second channel idea for pivot and at least one subscriber!

more or less what we do on awful.systems but in video form. actually not a bad idea at all, do we know anyone with a good voice for it?

[algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club]

@zzt @AnarchoNinaWrites @davidgerard algernon takes a note to record a few demos later today

[hairynevus@infosec.exchange]

@zzt
GOS: "It's fine if most of the output is wrong because it finds actual issues."

Literally wat