Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI.
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@nixCraft We are all Luddites now.
There's an interesting thing I learned about Luddites recently. They weren't against the machinery per se.
They just wanted better working & living conditions and there was no central point where they could make that statement and be heard. So out of necessity, they turned to a decentral target. The machines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite#Historical_precedents
Now then. What can we do to render big tech Ai useless for all to see?
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@drmorrisj @nixCraft
I just think that trying to make distinction is useless, because the way AI companies earn money is with more investments because of overvalued investments and promises, which is another form of investment speculation, and the way people suffer for it isn't any speculation at all. When people say value of AI companies is speculative, they mean in that sense too.@tiredbun @nixCraft so... you were in fact defending the equivocation fallacy and have decided that if you cry hard enough somebody will say that you are correct? To bring it back into the realm of logic, the DOT com bubble was also overinflated. Therefore, according to your rules, the internet is speculative.
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Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
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@drmorrisj @nixCraft
I just think that trying to make distinction is useless, because the way AI companies earn money is with more investments because of overvalued investments and promises, which is another form of investment speculation, and the way people suffer for it isn't any speculation at all. When people say value of AI companies is speculative, they mean in that sense too.@drmorrisj
My idea is, phrasing it like your example - you should not invest into company that is based on promises of ghosts. So called luddites are more concerned with that company is killing people, but they also will be angry that promised ghosts are theoretical speculation, and that investors are going in because of promises and blankets made to look like ghosts.
If that doesn't exactly fit a specific domain-specific definition of speculation and you technically wrong for calling investitions speculative, that doesn't really matter for the point. Maybe not ideal phrasing on the side of @nixCraft, but it's not really a fallacy. -
@tiredbun @nixCraft so... you were in fact defending the equivocation fallacy and have decided that if you cry hard enough somebody will say that you are correct? To bring it back into the realm of logic, the DOT com bubble was also overinflated. Therefore, according to your rules, the internet is speculative.
@drmorrisj @nixCraft
Something having or not having speculative or overinflated value doesn't explicitly mean it will forever be that way. Internet is irrelevant here.
Though I recognise I (especially in my first reply, in which I noted that definition you gave still seems to fit AI in my opinion) and nixcraft may be technically wrong for using a specific term instead of another it doesn't exactly mean much for the actual point, is what I want to say. -
@drmorrisj @nixCraft
Something having or not having speculative or overinflated value doesn't explicitly mean it will forever be that way. Internet is irrelevant here.
Though I recognise I (especially in my first reply, in which I noted that definition you gave still seems to fit AI in my opinion) and nixcraft may be technically wrong for using a specific term instead of another it doesn't exactly mean much for the actual point, is what I want to say.@tiredbun @nixCraft The difference between us is simple: I build the models, so I define them by what they do. You dislike the tech, so you define it by how it feels.
Admitting you are "technically wrong" while claiming it "doesn't matter" is just a long-winded way of saying you are arguing from emotion. Next time you see a "ghost" in the machine, remember the math you could not be arsed to learn.
Good luck with the content warnings
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Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
@nixCraft holy shit. I heard about this, but I figured it was a few boos here and there. Dude got shouted out. Love to see it! Fuck that guy.
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Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
@nixCraft I think he may be confused; he conflated a next token generator with the entire concept of science.
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Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
@nixCraft
Has he tried giving the speech to chat bots that are pretending to be graduating college? Might be a more receptive and sycophantic audience for him. -
Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
He’s such a smug shit too. Each of the speakers that have gone viral are absolutely clueless..
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@ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft thinking about that Romanian dictator at the fall of Communism who had the whole crowd before him turn and he just didn't know what to do, the impudence paralysed him.
Didn't they finish him off in the end?
@Lazarou @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft Yup, Nicolae Ceaușescu. They executed him in 1989. His former palace is so large that the Romanian Parliament and a museum is inside with quite a bit of room left over
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AI leaders like him and their AI companies are highly speculative and profit from that speculation in billions each yeer, while ordinary people like us and the kids in this video who boo and make similar speculations are called alarmists or Luddites.
@nixCraft to the gallows with thee, draw and quarter them all in the streets like the villians they have decided to become.
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@hannorein CEOs with that sociopathic mindset where they can't comprehend the world telling them no
@maxotaf @hannorein pretty apt considering this dude has who knows how many NDAs he's had women sign to get paid out for his inability to control his hands.
Guy with an orgy shower in one of his mansions has some thoughts on consent. Yikes. At least he's consistent. -
Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
@nixCraft Computers, to cell phones, to AI; #TechBros vying to own more of your production, through pure parasitism. Imagine that. 'Pure #Capitalism.
Graduate #FossilFuels #Oligarchy #TechBros with #sustainability #scientists
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Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
If that motherfucker touches me anywhere with his Nazitech, I will break everything on him I can reach.
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@tiredbun @nixCraft The difference between us is simple: I build the models, so I define them by what they do. You dislike the tech, so you define it by how it feels.
Admitting you are "technically wrong" while claiming it "doesn't matter" is just a long-winded way of saying you are arguing from emotion. Next time you see a "ghost" in the machine, remember the math you could not be arsed to learn.
Good luck with the content warnings
@drmorrisj @nixCraft
My point may have also been hard to follow so:
- My first reply - I question if there even is a fallacy because your definition still fits. Maybe a stretch, which is I now agree after thinking.
- Other replies, after I saw you say that original point is a fallacy - I say that even if term is incorrect or confusing with "investments" mentioned beside it, the point still stands that "AI" is overvalued and actively harmful.
About me "disliking tech" - I like tech in general, I spend a lot of my time, productive or hobby, on IT admin and programmer things. I even liked so called AI (and still like many parts of machine learning that actually bemefit society, be that computer vision or ML-based OCR), until I saw how much it negatively impacted me and those around me. You sound quite condencing trying to say things I say doesn't matter because I am "emotional" while you actually work on whatever sort of machine learning or statistical models that you equate with what companies call AI nowadays.
About CWs - screw you for removing them and then mocking me about it, actually, very petty and unnecessary. I have them because this a divisive topic that my followers may not want to read about when they are fed up about it. -
@drmorrisj @nixCraft
My point may have also been hard to follow so:
- My first reply - I question if there even is a fallacy because your definition still fits. Maybe a stretch, which is I now agree after thinking.
- Other replies, after I saw you say that original point is a fallacy - I say that even if term is incorrect or confusing with "investments" mentioned beside it, the point still stands that "AI" is overvalued and actively harmful.
About me "disliking tech" - I like tech in general, I spend a lot of my time, productive or hobby, on IT admin and programmer things. I even liked so called AI (and still like many parts of machine learning that actually bemefit society, be that computer vision or ML-based OCR), until I saw how much it negatively impacted me and those around me. You sound quite condencing trying to say things I say doesn't matter because I am "emotional" while you actually work on whatever sort of machine learning or statistical models that you equate with what companies call AI nowadays.
About CWs - screw you for removing them and then mocking me about it, actually, very petty and unnecessary. I have them because this a divisive topic that my followers may not want to read about when they are fed up about it. -
Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.
It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.
For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo
@nixCraft
One of the goals of a college education is to instill critical thinking. (Bravo, students!) -
@drmorrisj @nixCraft
How could you tell my second hobby was arguing with idiots on the internets?
Though you seem to have free time for that too. I don't get what is so funny to you. -
@nixCraft Sadly I saved the vid without bookmarking the post (doh!) so can't give any detail about when or where this was filmed, or who the speaker is, but this one is also good.
The look of total surprise from someone entirely out-of-touch with the views of those outside her tech bubble, is satisfying.
@ApostateEnglishman
IIRC it was commencement at UCF
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