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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

    It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

    For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

    #ai #llm

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    #38

    @nixCraft Can AI generate tomatoes to throw at this loser's face? Didn't think so.

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

      It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

      For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

      #ai #llm

      loadhigh@bitbang.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #39

      @nixCraft "Find a way to say yes"

      What a dickhead

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      • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

        @nixCraft
        I love how he gets increasingly more & more dismissive & insulting as he goes on. Does he think people will find that persuasive?

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        #40

        @artemis @nixCraft I wonder how much integrity Schmidt demonstrated during his time in the Sun Microsystems management structure. He would appear to be a figure of moral cowardice now.

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        • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

          @nixCraft
          I love how he gets increasingly more & more dismissive & insulting as he goes on. Does he think people will find that persuasive?

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          #41

          @artemis @nixCraft looks like school is in session and the speaker is the student here

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          • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

            @nixCraft Sadly I saved the vid without bookmarking the post (doh!) so can't give any detail about when or where this was filmed, or who the speaker is, but this one is also good.

            The look of total surprise from someone entirely out-of-touch with the views of those outside her tech bubble, is satisfying.

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            #42

            @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft thinking about that Romanian dictator at the fall of Communism who had the whole crowd before him turn and he just didn't know what to do, the impudence paralysed him.

            Didn't they finish him off in the end?

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

              It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

              For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

              #ai #llm

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              #43

              @nixCraft this is don’t be evil era google

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              • loadhigh@bitbang.socialL loadhigh@bitbang.social

                @nixCraft "Find a way to say yes"

                What a dickhead

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                #44

                @loadhigh @nixCraft He is proselyting, and it comes off as utter arrogance. Some of us did try. "AI" empirically failed. He seems to be in rank denial of this, which marks him out as being on very shaky psychological ground. And Google's track record of how they treated their "AI" safety whistleblowers is simply disgusting.

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                • drmorrisj@mastodon.socialD drmorrisj@mastodon.social

                  @tiredbun @nixCraft so... is this an attempt to justify the fallacy or are you making a new one? I can not tell.

                  Using one to justify the other is like saying you should not buy a lottery ticket (financial speculation) because you are afraid of ghosts (theoretical speculation).

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                  #45
                  @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                  I just think that trying to make distinction is useless, because the way AI companies earn money is with more investments because of overvalued investments and promises, which is another form of investment speculation, and the way people suffer for it isn't any speculation at all. When people say value of AI companies is speculative, they mean in that sense too.
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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                    It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                    For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                    #ai #llm

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                    #46

                    @nixCraft typical. So optimistic but when it starts to sour he’ll shrug and say “oh, well, i’ll be dead soon so it won’t be my problem.”

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                    • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                      @nixCraft We are all Luddites now.

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                      #47

                      @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft

                      There's an interesting thing I learned about Luddites recently. They weren't against the machinery per se.

                      They just wanted better working & living conditions and there was no central point where they could make that statement and be heard. So out of necessity, they turned to a decentral target. The machines.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite#Historical_precedents

                      Now then. What can we do to render big tech Ai useless for all to see?

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                      • tiredbun@akko.wtfT tiredbun@akko.wtf
                        @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                        I just think that trying to make distinction is useless, because the way AI companies earn money is with more investments because of overvalued investments and promises, which is another form of investment speculation, and the way people suffer for it isn't any speculation at all. When people say value of AI companies is speculative, they mean in that sense too.
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                        #48

                        @tiredbun @nixCraft so... you were in fact defending the equivocation fallacy and have decided that if you cry hard enough somebody will say that you are correct? To bring it back into the realm of logic, the DOT com bubble was also overinflated. Therefore, according to your rules, the internet is speculative.

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                          It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                          For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                          #ai #llm

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                          #49

                          @nixCraft

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                          • tiredbun@akko.wtfT tiredbun@akko.wtf
                            @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                            I just think that trying to make distinction is useless, because the way AI companies earn money is with more investments because of overvalued investments and promises, which is another form of investment speculation, and the way people suffer for it isn't any speculation at all. When people say value of AI companies is speculative, they mean in that sense too.
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                            #50
                            @drmorrisj

                            My idea is, phrasing it like your example - you should not invest into company that is based on promises of ghosts. So called luddites are more concerned with that company is killing people, but they also will be angry that promised ghosts are theoretical speculation, and that investors are going in because of promises and blankets made to look like ghosts.

                            If that doesn't exactly fit a specific domain-specific definition of speculation and you technically wrong for calling investitions speculative, that doesn't really matter for the point. Maybe not ideal phrasing on the side of @nixCraft, but it's not really a fallacy.
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                            • drmorrisj@mastodon.socialD drmorrisj@mastodon.social

                              @tiredbun @nixCraft so... you were in fact defending the equivocation fallacy and have decided that if you cry hard enough somebody will say that you are correct? To bring it back into the realm of logic, the DOT com bubble was also overinflated. Therefore, according to your rules, the internet is speculative.

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                              #51
                              @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                              Something having or not having speculative or overinflated value doesn't explicitly mean it will forever be that way. Internet is irrelevant here.

                              Though I recognise I (especially in my first reply, in which I noted that definition you gave still seems to fit AI in my opinion) and nixcraft may be technically wrong for using a specific term instead of another it doesn't exactly mean much for the actual point, is what I want to say.
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                              • tiredbun@akko.wtfT tiredbun@akko.wtf
                                @drmorrisj @nixCraft

                                Something having or not having speculative or overinflated value doesn't explicitly mean it will forever be that way. Internet is irrelevant here.

                                Though I recognise I (especially in my first reply, in which I noted that definition you gave still seems to fit AI in my opinion) and nixcraft may be technically wrong for using a specific term instead of another it doesn't exactly mean much for the actual point, is what I want to say.
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                                #52

                                @tiredbun @nixCraft The difference between us is simple: I build the models, so I define them by what they do. You dislike the tech, so you define it by how it feels.

                                ​Admitting you are "technically wrong" while claiming it "doesn't matter" is just a long-winded way of saying you are arguing from emotion. Next time you see a "ghost" in the machine, remember the math you could not be arsed to learn.

                                ​Good luck with the content warnings

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                                  It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                                  For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                                  #ai #llm

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                                  #53

                                  @nixCraft holy shit. I heard about this, but I figured it was a few boos here and there. Dude got shouted out. Love to see it! Fuck that guy.

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                                    It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                                    For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                                    #ai #llm

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                                    #54

                                    @nixCraft I think he may be confused; he conflated a next token generator with the entire concept of science.

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                                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                      Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                                      It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                                      For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                                      #ai #llm

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                                      #55

                                      @nixCraft
                                      Has he tried giving the speech to chat bots that are pretending to be graduating college? Might be a more receptive and sycophantic audience for him.

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        Google CEO tries to tell University students to love AI. They tell him to BOO off.

                                        It is good to see kids are saying no and fighting back. Do you know why? Because the future of bots, AI and robots doesn't offer any jobs to these young kids. They know greedy AI companies want to get rid of working class. It is simple as that.

                                        For those who wish to read instead of the clip. See BBC page: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8pqd54qneo

                                        #ai #llm

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                                        #56

                                        @nixCraft

                                        He’s such a smug shit too. Each of the speakers that have gone viral are absolutely clueless..

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                                        • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                                          @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft thinking about that Romanian dictator at the fall of Communism who had the whole crowd before him turn and he just didn't know what to do, the impudence paralysed him.

                                          Didn't they finish him off in the end?

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                                          #57

                                          @Lazarou @ApostateEnglishman @nixCraft Yup, Nicolae Ceaușescu. They executed him in 1989. His former palace is so large that the Romanian Parliament and a museum is inside with quite a bit of room left over

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