One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
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@TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Did you mean „I was willing“ or did you really mean „it was willing“? As in „Claude - the app I pay for - was willing to spend more of my money“?
Every time a coworker told me that AI helped them learn new programming skills I felt like they could have just as well typed „python pathlib examples“ into a search engine and learned the same.
There is a massive tome of knowledge out there which LLMs ingested.That $20 a month I'm paying means I am getting way more compute than $20 worth. They're selling it at a loss to do customer capture right now. But in my case it worked because I can see the advantage of this tool.
Yes Claude is willing to spend my tokens on test cases and documentation, but I am willing to let it do that.
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I started using Claude about 3 months ago for a personal project and I was pleasantly surprised that it nudged me in the direction of test driven design. It wanted me to build my test cases first. And it was willing to do the heavy lifting on building those test cases and on doing the documentation. Also the output that it gave was first rate.
I truly believe that in the right environment Claude is a fantastic engineering assistant.
I'm also told that openai does not have the same model as Claude. Instead of being an engineering assistant what it does is assume you want it to do everything for you when you press the white do it button. And it just gives you the result without showing you any of the steps along the way.
I am also told that the only comparable process overlay is by an open source product named Aider. Usually any successful model like anthropics would draw more competitors.
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
@cwebber That's why I use AI for fun, not food. Or something. Lol. And keep it scoped. If I try to make an app that has every TTS engine ever, something's gonna break. But if I make a Keynote Gold app, that's much easier to keep little enough for the AI and my non-existent brain, to encompas.
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
The Claude summary bot framing is spot-on: you're not an engineer, you're a meat proxy pressing Enter while the AI slops out. That's the whole job description right there.
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@cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.
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@thegrumpyenby @pixelate @cwebber
I am against AI proliferation myself, but for an unsighted person Natural Language queries are a boon. AI use hits his life differently than it does us. Keep that in mind when you engage.Yes, #NeverSlop ...but be smart about the fight. We're here for the benefit of all people, not just hating the machine.
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@thegrumpyenby @cwebber You saw the :blind: tag after my name. You know disabled people are the most marginalized people in the world. We have asked and asked for *checks notes* 20+ years for foss bros and big corporations alike to make computing accessible for us. You won't. So when AI allows us to "boil the oceans" for accessibility with no complaints and only some half-assed work, we take it. Get educated. Do better.
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
@cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked."
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
Oh look it’s training data made it troll Claude users
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
@cwebber „slopacalypse“ is also pure gold
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
@cwebber Yup. The human is now the "accountability sink". Someone to blame when the AI fucks something up.
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
@cwebber surely this is not at all indicative of deep seated real flaws of the technology!
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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.
Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:
> The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.
@cwebber I heard "legal crumple zone" for someone taking the responsibility for the ai fuckups
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@cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.
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@cwebber That's why I use AI for fun, not food. Or something. Lol. And keep it scoped. If I try to make an app that has every TTS engine ever, something's gonna break. But if I make a Keynote Gold app, that's much easier to keep little enough for the AI and my non-existent brain, to encompas.
How on earth is using AI "fun"? It sounds like shoving a pencil up one's nose and hammering it in.
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AI is not profitable. The companies lose money each time their product is used.
The only people making money on this is the financial services sector trading stock & issuing huge loans on "possible, perhaps, maybe" future revenue AND the fossil fuel industry powering gas generators for data centers.
The product is loathed and user acceptance doesn't match the hype.
What sane business makes itself dependent on a supplier or vendor at high risk of going bankrupt?
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@TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Did you mean „I was willing“ or did you really mean „it was willing“? As in „Claude - the app I pay for - was willing to spend more of my money“?
Every time a coworker told me that AI helped them learn new programming skills I felt like they could have just as well typed „python pathlib examples“ into a search engine and learned the same.
There is a massive tome of knowledge out there which LLMs ingested.@compfu @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber I know someone who decided this week that he wants to finally understand the deep magic, and asked Claude to help him be a kernel dev while never writing a single line of code for him.
Claude gave him real books to acquire and read, and he's currently working through understanding how registers work in assembly code, with a ready tutor to clarify anything needed.
So far they have not cut him off and demanded any money, but he does not necessarily expect that to happen, given the load on the servers is pretty small for this.
Evil is in how you use the thing. You can actually force it to make you smarter, if you're willing to become smarter (ie. Work).
