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  • T toomuchcoffee@mastodon.social

    @cwebber

    I started using Claude about 3 months ago for a personal project and I was pleasantly surprised that it nudged me in the direction of test driven design. It wanted me to build my test cases first. And it was willing to do the heavy lifting on building those test cases and on doing the documentation. Also the output that it gave was first rate.

    I truly believe that in the right environment Claude is a fantastic engineering assistant.

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    #14

    @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Did you mean „I was willing“ or did you really mean „it was willing“? As in „Claude - the app I pay for - was willing to spend more of my money“?

    Every time a coworker told me that AI helped them learn new programming skills I felt like they could have just as well typed „python pathlib examples“ into a search engine and learned the same.
    There is a massive tome of knowledge out there which LLMs ingested.

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    • compfu@mograph.socialC compfu@mograph.social

      @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Did you mean „I was willing“ or did you really mean „it was willing“? As in „Claude - the app I pay for - was willing to spend more of my money“?

      Every time a coworker told me that AI helped them learn new programming skills I felt like they could have just as well typed „python pathlib examples“ into a search engine and learned the same.
      There is a massive tome of knowledge out there which LLMs ingested.

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      toomuchcoffee@mastodon.social
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      #15

      @compfu @cwebber

      That $20 a month I'm paying means I am getting way more compute than $20 worth. They're selling it at a loss to do customer capture right now. But in my case it worked because I can see the advantage of this tool.

      Yes Claude is willing to spend my tokens on test cases and documentation, but I am willing to let it do that.

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      • T toomuchcoffee@mastodon.social

        @cwebber

        I started using Claude about 3 months ago for a personal project and I was pleasantly surprised that it nudged me in the direction of test driven design. It wanted me to build my test cases first. And it was willing to do the heavy lifting on building those test cases and on doing the documentation. Also the output that it gave was first rate.

        I truly believe that in the right environment Claude is a fantastic engineering assistant.

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        toomuchcoffee@mastodon.social
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        #16

        @cwebber

        I'm also told that openai does not have the same model as Claude. Instead of being an engineering assistant what it does is assume you want it to do everything for you when you press the white do it button. And it just gives you the result without showing you any of the steps along the way.

        I am also told that the only comparable process overlay is by an open source product named Aider. Usually any successful model like anthropics would draw more competitors.

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

          Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

          Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

          > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

          pixelate@tweesecake.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @cwebber That's why I use AI for fun, not food. Or something. Lol. And keep it scoped. If I try to make an app that has every TTS engine ever, something's gonna break. But if I make a Keynote Gold app, that's much easier to keep little enough for the AI and my non-existent brain, to encompas.

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

            Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

            Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

            > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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            claytribune@mastodon.social
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            #18

            The Claude summary bot framing is spot-on: you're not an engineer, you're a meat proxy pressing Enter while the AI slops out. That's the whole job description right there.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.

              bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @alice @cwebber I've heard "meat proxy" as one description

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                #20

                @thegrumpyenby @pixelate @cwebber
                I am against AI proliferation myself, but for an unsighted person Natural Language queries are a boon. AI use hits his life differently than it does us. Keep that in mind when you engage.

                Yes, #NeverSlop ...but be smart about the fight. We're here for the benefit of all people, not just hating the machine.

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                  #21

                  @thegrumpyenby @cwebber You saw the :blind: tag after my name. You know disabled people are the most marginalized people in the world. We have asked and asked for *checks notes* 20+ years for foss bros and big corporations alike to make computing accessible for us. You won't. So when AI allows us to "boil the oceans" for accessibility with no complaints and only some half-assed work, we take it. Get educated. Do better.

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                    Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                    Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                    > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                    #22

                    @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked."

                    🔥 bars 🔥

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                      Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                      Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                      > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                      #23

                      @cwebber

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                        Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                        Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                        > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                        ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai
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                        #24

                        @cwebber

                        Oh look it’s training data made it troll Claude users

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                          Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                          Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                          > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                          #25



                          RE: https://framapiaf.org/users/davidrevoy/statuses/117242009930321330

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                          • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

                            @alice @cwebber I've heard "meat proxy" as one description

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                            #26

                            @Bredroll @alice @cwebber that imho describes it better; a condom has the hope of being somehow efficient & the peeps that use llms in my experience don't give any f's what happens in the "running" code

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                              Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                              Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                              > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                              #27

                              @cwebber „slopacalypse“ is also pure gold

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                                Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                                Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                                > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                                #28

                                @cwebber Yup. The human is now the "accountability sink". Someone to blame when the AI fucks something up.

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                                  Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                                  Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                                  > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                                  #29

                                  @cwebber surely this is not at all indicative of deep seated real flaws of the technology!

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

                                    Curious to see just how much of the thread on a quite pro-genAI subreddit is people commiserating on the exhaustion of their work turning primarily into tedium and poor engineering.

                                    Bonus in that the Claude AI summary bot in the thread says:

                                    > The Rise of the Meat Proxy: You're not an engineer anymore, you're an "organic vessel designed to press enter." Or, as one user so poetically put it, you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked. Your only real job is to be the warm body they can blame when the AI slop inevitably breaks.

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                                    #30

                                    @cwebber I heard "legal crumple zone" for someone taking the responsibility for the ai fuckups

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.

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                                      ari@chaos.social
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                                      #31

                                      @alice @cwebber more like a fly screen as protection against wind coming through an open window.

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                                      • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                                        @cwebber That's why I use AI for fun, not food. Or something. Lol. And keep it scoped. If I try to make an app that has every TTS engine ever, something's gonna break. But if I make a Keynote Gold app, that's much easier to keep little enough for the AI and my non-existent brain, to encompas.

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                                        #32

                                        @pixelate

                                        How on earth is using AI "fun"? It sounds like shoving a pencil up one's nose and hammering it in.

                                        @cwebber

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                                          #33

                                          @pinhman

                                          AI is not profitable. The companies lose money each time their product is used.

                                          The only people making money on this is the financial services sector trading stock & issuing huge loans on "possible, perhaps, maybe" future revenue AND the fossil fuel industry powering gas generators for data centers.

                                          The product is loathed and user acceptance doesn't match the hype.

                                          What sane business makes itself dependent on a supplier or vendor at high risk of going bankrupt?

                                          @cwebber

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