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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

    fmors@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #55

    @_elena to be very honest, I think you can drive that energy towards something more constructive. Too bad that Fediverse gets only crickets in terms of press attention, but it is what it is. We are growing. Less than others, but who cares? It is about quality, not quantity.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

      daniel@masto.art4.seD This user is from outside of this forum
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      daniel@masto.art4.se
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #56

      @_elena In the name of @blogg I allergy sent them a open letter telling them how stupid this idea is. An I published it at the same blog. Sense it is the Swedish government authority, Integritetsskyddsmyndigheten, I did write it in Swedish.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

        mapache@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #57

        @_elena buy domains and put your video. I can chip in!

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        • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

          @_elena Ok, now I'm intrigued and want to know the details 🙂 I just hate how this was branded as "European answer" by the press, like it would be official EU project - when it clearly was just attention grab by some limelight hungry random CEO. Luckily it doesn't seem to have had much news value (papers in Sweden didn't pick it up)

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          #58

          @0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims

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          • daniel@masto.art4.seD daniel@masto.art4.se

            @_elena In the name of @blogg I allergy sent them a open letter telling them how stupid this idea is. An I published it at the same blog. Sense it is the Swedish government authority, Integritetsskyddsmyndigheten, I did write it in Swedish.

            frebelt@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #59

            @daniel @_elena @blogg

            Hi Daniel, could you post a link to your blog article please? 🙏

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            • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

              @FrankauLux @_elena all they did was tap the EU for funding and they’re so cautious and clueless they backed it because they used the right buzzwords

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              #60

              @humanhorseshoes @FrankauLux @_elena

              Do you know if w received any eu funding?

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              • frebelt@mastodon.onlineF frebelt@mastodon.online

                @daniel @_elena @blogg

                Hi Daniel, could you post a link to your blog article please? 🙏

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                #61

                @frebelt @_elena @blogg https://www.linuxfika.se/
                But it is in swedish.

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                • daniel@masto.art4.seD daniel@masto.art4.se

                  @frebelt @_elena @blogg https://www.linuxfika.se/
                  But it is in swedish.

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                  #62

                  @daniel @_elena @blogg

                  no problama - auto translation is my friend

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                  • frebelt@mastodon.onlineF frebelt@mastodon.online

                    @daniel @_elena @blogg

                    no problama - auto translation is my friend

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                    #63

                    @frebelt @_elena @blogg then your very welcome. 😀

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                    • daniel@masto.art4.seD daniel@masto.art4.se

                      @frebelt @_elena @blogg then your very welcome. 😀

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                      #64

                      @frebelt @_elena @blogg if you have any questions I'm willing to answer them.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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                        #65

                        @_elena this map can help to make the case for the fediverse in Europe

                        https://toot.wales/@jaz/115938939835763217

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                          The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                          Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                          uriel@x.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #66

                          @_elena

                          Is not federating at all:

                          no activitypub.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                            The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                            Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                            brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #67

                            @_elena they didn't even remove the name "Bluesky" on various parts of the website 🤣🤣🤣

                            https://stage.wsocial.eu

                            #WSocial

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                            • vladcampos@mastodon.socialV vladcampos@mastodon.social

                              @_elena Honestly, I think that will only create a sense of division: "Mine is better than yours".

                              I don't believe that's what the world needs now. I think we need to try to find a common ground. For example, why did they choose the ATProto?

                              Although I would prefer them to have decided on ActivityPub, maybe they have a reason.

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                              #68

                              @vladcampos they didn't choose any protocol, they just designed a landing Page ... for ... Bluesky 🤣

                              https://stage.wsocial.eu

                              @_elena

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                              • odd@mstdn.socialO odd@mstdn.social

                                @_elena its probably better not to sabotage EU alternatives, but by grabbing domains the fediverse could be injected into the news cycle, if done with a coherent message to the media.

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                                #69

                                @odd it's not actually an european alternative. It's Bluesky, literally 😅 https://stage.wsocial.eu

                                @_elena

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                                • brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB brennpunktua@mastodon.social

                                  @_elena they didn't even remove the name "Bluesky" on various parts of the website 🤣🤣🤣

                                  https://stage.wsocial.eu

                                  #WSocial

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                                  #70

                                  @BrennpunktUA 😂 @_elena

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims

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                                    #71

                                    @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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                                    • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                                      @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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                                      #72

                                      @_elena no idea if it's right-wing connected (wouldn't surprise me) and I can't be bothered to look further - it already looks like a rich-boy club scheme to make money out of activism. And I guess their headlines from Davos around this social network of theirs were formed similarly. Bleh.

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                                      • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                                        @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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                                        #73

                                        @0xtero thank you for the info! Yes I had seen the non-profit info but not the revenue. Wow.

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @0xtero thank you for the info! Yes I had seen the non-profit info but not the revenue. Wow.

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                                          #74

                                          @_elena here's the company info (sorry, in Swedish) https://www.allabolag.se/foretag/wedonthavetime-ab-publ/stockholm/informationskonsulter-kommunikationskonsulter/2KGW5D6I5YFD4

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