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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    This. Just, this.

    heppycat@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #38

    @cstross @stefan an EICAR test code would be a good start

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    • mbirth@social.mbirth.ukM mbirth@social.mbirth.uk

      @nblr @cstross Unless someone wants to photocopy a photo of it!

      nblr@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #39

      @mbirth @cstross We tried. To no avail. Will have to try another iteration with an endless pattern fabric/print. So it is presented in multiple and different orientations.

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      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

        This. Just, this.

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        #40

        @cstross AI data centers are this at scale. Only, they are reducing the whole planet to a useless brick.

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          This. Just, this.

          amazing_helenab@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #41

          @cstross it should be called the Medusa virus.

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            This. Just, this.

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            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #42

            @cstross
            Bonus points for bricking facial-recognition cameras.

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            • gulfie@mastodonapp.ukG gulfie@mastodonapp.uk

              @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries I have that as a QR code on the underside of my laptop…

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              #43

              @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries anyone nosey enough to scan it deserves all they get 🤣🤣🤣

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                This. Just, this.

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                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #44

                @cstross just remember not to take any selfies, amirite?

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  This. Just, this.

                  ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #45

                  @cstross oh, but this exists. someone on here did a small batch of sew-on patches a few years ago that were QR codes of the EICAR test file. we have a couple...

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                  • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                    @cstross oh, but this exists. someone on here did a small batch of sew-on patches a few years ago that were QR codes of the EICAR test file. we have a couple...

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                    #46

                    @cstross it isn't technically a virus, it's a file that virus scanners per their spec are supposed to treat as if it's a virus. so, for example, if a badly-written surveillance camera decodes the QR code and stores it in a way that a virus scanner can see (which is not what it should do, but...), then the virus scanner will quarantine the file which may break the camera

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                    • flippac@types.plF flippac@types.pl

                      @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries How big a zip bomb can you get in one, anyway? And can you fit the EICAR string in an unpleasantly long way in?...

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                      #47

                      @flippac @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries if you're executing arbitrary code from a QR code, I think a zip bomb is the least of your worries.

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                      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                        @cstross it isn't technically a virus, it's a file that virus scanners per their spec are supposed to treat as if it's a virus. so, for example, if a badly-written surveillance camera decodes the QR code and stores it in a way that a virus scanner can see (which is not what it should do, but...), then the virus scanner will quarantine the file which may break the camera

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                        #48

                        @cstross that said, to know whether it actually works and when would require a lot of testing, which to our knowledge nobody has done

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                        • earthshine@masto.hackers.townE earthshine@masto.hackers.town

                          @flippac @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries if you're executing arbitrary code from a QR code, I think a zip bomb is the least of your worries.

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                          #49

                          @earthshine @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries it doesn't need to be executed - just mishandled by careless AV

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            This. Just, this.

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                            #50

                            @cstross my phone does not automatically scan QR codes, is this a feature on newer phones?

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                            • earthshine@masto.hackers.townE earthshine@masto.hackers.town

                              @flippac @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries if you're executing arbitrary code from a QR code, I think a zip bomb is the least of your worries.

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                              #51

                              @earthshine @flippac @neurovagrant @unknownbinaries QR code to download a PDF containing Javascript (which the PDF standard now incorporates) to dynamically generate a zip bomb containing infinite copies of itself.

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                              • jmvars@mastodon.socialJ jmvars@mastodon.social

                                @cstross my phone does not automatically scan QR codes, is this a feature on newer phones?

                                cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #52

                                @Jmvars If so, it's a mis-feature. (iOS recognizes QR codes but then tells you to tap to confirm you want to open the URL it points to.)

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                                • agathos@mastodon.babb.noA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #53

                                  @neurovagrant @trainguyrom @anotherdaniel @cstross @unknownbinaries I am not saying that a huge grocery store chain in norway is vulnerable to this "attack" in their self service tills, I would not know anything about that, no need to ask any further questions

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    This. Just, this.

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                                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                    #54

                                    @cstross Fuck yeah, I want one too and accessories as well!

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      This. Just, this.

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                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #55
                                      @cstross @alice Arguably if their camera does that it's /already/ infested with malware, a dropper specifically.
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                                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                        @earthshine @flippac @neurovagrant @unknownbinaries QR code to download a PDF containing Javascript (which the PDF standard now incorporates) to dynamically generate a zip bomb containing infinite copies of itself.

                                        earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                        #56

                                        @cstross @flippac @neurovagrant @unknownbinaries isn't modern software great?

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          This. Just, this.

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                                          wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                          #57

                                          @cstross

                                          I thought that's why Hentai TShirts are printed!

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