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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    This. Just, this.

    ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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    #45

    @cstross oh, but this exists. someone on here did a small batch of sew-on patches a few years ago that were QR codes of the EICAR test file. we have a couple...

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    • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

      @cstross oh, but this exists. someone on here did a small batch of sew-on patches a few years ago that were QR codes of the EICAR test file. we have a couple...

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      #46

      @cstross it isn't technically a virus, it's a file that virus scanners per their spec are supposed to treat as if it's a virus. so, for example, if a badly-written surveillance camera decodes the QR code and stores it in a way that a virus scanner can see (which is not what it should do, but...), then the virus scanner will quarantine the file which may break the camera

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      • flippac@types.plF flippac@types.pl

        @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries How big a zip bomb can you get in one, anyway? And can you fit the EICAR string in an unpleasantly long way in?...

        earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #47

        @flippac @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries if you're executing arbitrary code from a QR code, I think a zip bomb is the least of your worries.

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        • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

          @cstross it isn't technically a virus, it's a file that virus scanners per their spec are supposed to treat as if it's a virus. so, for example, if a badly-written surveillance camera decodes the QR code and stores it in a way that a virus scanner can see (which is not what it should do, but...), then the virus scanner will quarantine the file which may break the camera

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          #48

          @cstross that said, to know whether it actually works and when would require a lot of testing, which to our knowledge nobody has done

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          • earthshine@masto.hackers.townE earthshine@masto.hackers.town

            @flippac @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries if you're executing arbitrary code from a QR code, I think a zip bomb is the least of your worries.

            flippac@types.plF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #49

            @earthshine @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries it doesn't need to be executed - just mishandled by careless AV

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            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

              This. Just, this.

              jmvars@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #50

              @cstross my phone does not automatically scan QR codes, is this a feature on newer phones?

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              • earthshine@masto.hackers.townE earthshine@masto.hackers.town

                @flippac @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries if you're executing arbitrary code from a QR code, I think a zip bomb is the least of your worries.

                cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #51

                @earthshine @flippac @neurovagrant @unknownbinaries QR code to download a PDF containing Javascript (which the PDF standard now incorporates) to dynamically generate a zip bomb containing infinite copies of itself.

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                • jmvars@mastodon.socialJ jmvars@mastodon.social

                  @cstross my phone does not automatically scan QR codes, is this a feature on newer phones?

                  cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #52

                  @Jmvars If so, it's a mis-feature. (iOS recognizes QR codes but then tells you to tap to confirm you want to open the URL it points to.)

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                  • agathos@mastodon.babb.noA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #53

                    @neurovagrant @trainguyrom @anotherdaniel @cstross @unknownbinaries I am not saying that a huge grocery store chain in norway is vulnerable to this "attack" in their self service tills, I would not know anything about that, no need to ask any further questions

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                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                      This. Just, this.

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                      #54

                      @cstross Fuck yeah, I want one too and accessories as well!

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        This. Just, this.

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                        #55
                        @cstross @alice Arguably if their camera does that it's /already/ infested with malware, a dropper specifically.
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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          @earthshine @flippac @neurovagrant @unknownbinaries QR code to download a PDF containing Javascript (which the PDF standard now incorporates) to dynamically generate a zip bomb containing infinite copies of itself.

                          earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #56

                          @cstross @flippac @neurovagrant @unknownbinaries isn't modern software great?

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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            This. Just, this.

                            n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #57

                            @cstross

                            I thought that's why Hentai TShirts are printed!

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              This. Just, this.

                              aspragg@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #58

                              @cstross Sounds like the sort of thing that Adversarial Fashion would do/be interested in:

                              https://adversarialfashion.com/

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                This. Just, this.

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                                #59

                                @cstross

                                Great idea actually!

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                                • datterich@darmstadt.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #60

                                  @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries
                                  There's an older discussion on the topic here in my and @catsalad's timeline, not only with the EICAR, but also with a nice SQL bomb (remember Bobby Tables? 😉). Please feel free to make a shirt out of it.

                                  On German ambulances are QR codes leading to pages informing about why it's bad to film victims and rescuers. A good idea. Makes filming impossible if your camera app opens QR codes right away without user consent...

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    This. Just, this.

                                    alandvalonline@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #61

                                    @cstross Put me on the wait list. I'm in.

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                                    • jqmcd@sfba.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #62

                                      @cstross I feel sorry for the photographer covering the protest for the school newspaper over at the community college

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                                      • datterich@darmstadt.socialD datterich@darmstadt.social

                                        @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries
                                        There's an older discussion on the topic here in my and @catsalad's timeline, not only with the EICAR, but also with a nice SQL bomb (remember Bobby Tables? 😉). Please feel free to make a shirt out of it.

                                        On German ambulances are QR codes leading to pages informing about why it's bad to film victims and rescuers. A good idea. Makes filming impossible if your camera app opens QR codes right away without user consent...

                                        qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #63

                                        @Datterich @neurovagrant @cstross @unknownbinaries @catsalad Which camera opens QR codes right away?! Well, to be fair I have to use a FOSS QR scanner because the camera app from my phone doesn't scan those at all, but I never saw any phone that opens QR codes right away ever.

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                                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                          This. Just, this.

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                                          #64

                                          @cstross damn, it's even more creative than my fantasies about brain implant generating white noise to interrupt others' phones cloud connectivity

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