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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

    — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

    — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

    I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

    khw@digitalcourage.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #12

    @randahl
    Nope, nothing like that in Germany, as far as I can tell

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

      — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

      — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

      I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

      darkpaw@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @randahl Register with made up details. Pay with cash.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

        — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

        — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

        I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

        shuro@friends.deko.cloudS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @randahl depends, usually the difference is not that much and not on every item but it can be considerable.

        Usually it is about having shop's app but also can be some offer like "buy two for the price of one" available only for app holders. Quite often this "bargain price" is actually normal market price so by not choosing the offer you effectively pay twice as much.

        I hate it of course.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

          — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

          — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

          I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

          cb@boop.bleepbop.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #15

          what the fuck!? that is bonkers!!!

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          • owiecc@en.osm.townO owiecc@en.osm.town

            @randahl register, buy, delete the account.

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            #16

            @owiecc @randahl or use someone else shared card
            https://nocard.cz/

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            • khw@digitalcourage.socialK khw@digitalcourage.social

              @randahl
              Nope, nothing like that in Germany, as far as I can tell

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              #17

              @khw @randahl sure, grocery stores and their apps. Not in the same ballpark though but still

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                #18

                @randahl no. Haven't seen this in Germany, yet. And I would definitely not buy anything there.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                  — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                  — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                  I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

                  tlariv@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @randahl
                  Not yet here in the States. Frankly I'm shocked that anyone got to this level of fuckery before us.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                    — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                    — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                    I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                    #20

                    @randahl

                    One commenter wrote that such practice is not in the US yet, but it most definitely is. It’s typically called the member price and the nonmember price. The difference is typically 10-20%. There can be other differences, too. If a product is in high demand, members might have a higher limit on the number they can buy. You become a member by obtaining a loyalty card, which usually requires your name, address (so they can send you junk mail), phone number (which can stand in for your membership number so you don’t always have to have your card on you), and an email address (so they can send you junk email). I positively hated that system, and I’m sorry to report that it’s in Ukraine, too.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                      — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                      — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                      I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                      #21

                      @randahl Did I mention that I’m going to see Boots Riley’s I Love Boosters tonight?

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                        — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                        — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                        I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                        #22

                        @randahl Every time you accept a loyalty card you get lower prices and other "ad vantages", in other words you're data mined to the bones...

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                          — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                          — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                          I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

                          mk@bsd.networkM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #23

                          @randahl Imerco at one point had regular prices for "members", and sometimes multiples of 100% higher prices for others.

                          I just stopped shopping there.

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                          • mk@bsd.networkM mk@bsd.network

                            @randahl Imerco at one point had regular prices for "members", and sometimes multiples of 100% higher prices for others.

                            I just stopped shopping there.

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                            #24

                            @randahl check out this bs.

                            I think they've dialled it back slightly, because I remember it being for everything.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                              — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                              — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                              I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                              #25

                              @randahl

                              Yes, at a smaller markup. It's called a loyalty card or Co-op membership. And then there are online retailers, who do not offer the more expensive option at all.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                                — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                                — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                                I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

                                muddle@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #26

                                @randahl It's the "Consent or pay" model of privacy/informed consent and it is truly terrible.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_or_pay

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                                  — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                                  — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                                  I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                                  #27

                                  @randahl I would have left my entire purchase right there at the till and walked out.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                                    — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                                    — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                                    I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

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                                    #28

                                    @randahl Do you have any articles (Danish is fine) about this?
                                    Would love to reference when sending a letter to MP in Canada regarding the idea of regulation around dynamic pricing (which is currently being discussed).

                                    Buying bread, should not require knowing who I am

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:

                                      — A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.

                                      — An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.

                                      I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?

                                      phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #29

                                      @randahl One would think that's massively illegal in any reasonable country. Or one can at least hope they can get reported to some kind of ombudsman or ministry or whatever.

                                      And of course then I remember you guys have a Peter Hummelgaard. Chances are he gets wet from the very thought of companies farming people's data like that.

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                                      • stilvoid@retro.pizzaS stilvoid@retro.pizza

                                        @randahl definitely beginning to happen here in the UK. Tesco started it with special “Tesco Clubcard” prices.

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                                        #30

                                        @stilvoid @randahl Ah yeah I forgot about Tesco Clubcard stuff — I go there too rarely even when at home. It feels like Tesco is slightly more expensive than Aldi and Lidl anyway (even on non-dual-priced items), and then the clubcard beep will make the few items be slightly cheaper than the competition, or you get a 2 loafs of bread for the price of one kind of deal on items you practically never want more of in one purchase XD

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                                        • piratenpanda@norden.socialP piratenpanda@norden.social

                                          @khw @randahl sure, grocery stores and their apps. Not in the same ballpark though but still

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                                          #31

                                          @piratenpanda @khw @randahl Yeah I feel like things like Lidl Plus or the Rewe card mostly don't affect the prices directly (haven't really seen dual priced items but maybe I haven't paid attention — certainly not as much as Tesco Clubcard as mentioned by Stilvoid, but even that is just on a few dozen items anyway), but give limited bundle discounts or such.

                                          Different incentive, feels less like extortion.

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