Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
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@randahl register, buy, delete the account.
@owiecc @randahl or use someone else shared card
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@randahl
Nope, nothing like that in Germany, as far as I can tell -
Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl no. Haven't seen this in Germany, yet. And I would definitely not buy anything there.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl
Not yet here in the States. Frankly I'm shocked that anyone got to this level of fuckery before us. -
Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
One commenter wrote that such practice is not in the US yet, but it most definitely is. It’s typically called the member price and the nonmember price. The difference is typically 10-20%. There can be other differences, too. If a product is in high demand, members might have a higher limit on the number they can buy. You become a member by obtaining a loyalty card, which usually requires your name, address (so they can send you junk mail), phone number (which can stand in for your membership number so you don’t always have to have your card on you), and an email address (so they can send you junk email). I positively hated that system, and I’m sorry to report that it’s in Ukraine, too.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl Did I mention that I’m going to see Boots Riley’s I Love Boosters tonight?
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl Every time you accept a loyalty card you get lower prices and other "ad vantages", in other words you're data mined to the bones...
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl Imerco at one point had regular prices for "members", and sometimes multiples of 100% higher prices for others.
I just stopped shopping there.
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@randahl Imerco at one point had regular prices for "members", and sometimes multiples of 100% higher prices for others.
I just stopped shopping there.
@randahl check out this bs.
I think they've dialled it back slightly, because I remember it being for everything.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
Yes, at a smaller markup. It's called a loyalty card or Co-op membership. And then there are online retailers, who do not offer the more expensive option at all.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl It's the "Consent or pay" model of privacy/informed consent and it is truly terrible.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl I would have left my entire purchase right there at the till and walked out.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl Do you have any articles (Danish is fine) about this?
Would love to reference when sending a letter to MP in Canada regarding the idea of regulation around dynamic pricing (which is currently being discussed).Buying bread, should not require knowing who I am
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl One would think that's massively illegal in any reasonable country. Or one can at least hope they can get reported to some kind of ombudsman or ministry or whatever.
And of course then I remember you guys have a Peter Hummelgaard. Chances are he gets wet from the very thought of companies farming people's data like that.
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@randahl definitely beginning to happen here in the UK. Tesco started it with special “Tesco Clubcard” prices.
@stilvoid @randahl Ah yeah I forgot about Tesco Clubcard stuff — I go there too rarely even when at home. It feels like Tesco is slightly more expensive than Aldi and Lidl anyway (even on non-dual-priced items), and then the clubcard beep will make the few items be slightly cheaper than the competition, or you get a 2 loafs of bread for the price of one kind of deal on items you practically never want more of in one purchase XD
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@piratenpanda @khw @randahl Yeah I feel like things like Lidl Plus or the Rewe card mostly don't affect the prices directly (haven't really seen dual priced items but maybe I haven't paid attention — certainly not as much as Tesco Clubcard as mentioned by Stilvoid, but even that is just on a few dozen items anyway), but give limited bundle discounts or such.
Different incentive, feels less like extortion.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl I made a complaint a couple of years ago.
"the view of the DPC is that not being forced to part with personal data in order to avail of XXX products or services nor is the XXX card a barrier to avail of products."The Handbook on European Data Protection Law" (page 145) touches on the scenario that you have raised as below:
are not serious enough to prevent the data subject’s free choice (provided price reduction small enough not to affect free choice).
https://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2018/handbook-european-data-protection-law-2018-edition
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@owiecc @randahl or use someone else shared card
https://nocard.cz/@petrjezek124
It's often app-based rather than by card. Apps are very popular with businesses as they are optimized for data extraction.
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Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
@randahl
Yeah, I know those customer card/app offers.
It was not that recognisable i. germany, but here in Ireland it has sometimes a huge impact on products in regular groceries. One has to be always careful by reduced prices, because most of them are connected to the customer card/app.
We never took part in this schemes and will never do so. -
Today I was in a sportswear shop in Denmark, where all items had two prices:
— A normal price which came with the requirement that you registered with them, so they can data mine your purchases.
— An almost 100 percent higher price which was offered to anyone who did not want to have their data mined.
I truly loathe this, but it is becoming more and more common in large retail chains in my country. Are you seeing this in your country as well?
The supermarket chain by me does that for the sale prices. You have to have the chain's loyalty card in order to get sometimes a 60-70% discount, or a by 3 get one free. It's been that way for at least a decade.
Sure there's data mining, but if they really wanted to silence this voter through such mining, they'll keep giving me four 12-packs of soda for $16 US and then wait twenty years for the sugar to knock me off.
